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  • January 8, 2021 at 5:39 pm

    And the very next paragraph specfically addresses GBS:

    People who have previously had Guillain-Barre syndrome

    Persons who have previously had GBS may receive an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. To date, no cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS) have been reported following vaccination among participants in the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine clinical trials. With few exceptions, the independent Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) general best practice guidelines for immunization do not include a history of GBS as a precaution to vaccination with other vaccines.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/underlying-conditions.html#:~:text=People%20who%20have%20autoimmune%20conditions,for%20enrollment%20in%20clinical%20trials.

    December 29, 2020 at 7:18 pm

    Well, I’m beginning to regret starting this thread. It’s apparent that some people suffer from unrealistic expectations, and have a mistaken view that medical experts exist solely to serve their personal needs. Anything less than that makes the latter subject to appallingly flippant — and unfair — criticism. Science depends on data and evidence. You can’t expect anyone to make flawless predictions or express certainty in their conclusions when data and evidence are scarce. That’s one of the things that makes being a GBS patient so difficult; there is much that remains unknown. But lashing out at medical experts is not going to improve your situation, except perhaps to make you feel good because you’re “brave” enough to stand up to the “big shots”.

    And I guess I had unrealistic expectations that participants in this forum would show some decorum — *in spite of* their often difficult and frustrating health situations. For that, I apologize.

    December 24, 2020 at 1:40 pm

    Engaging in misleading and ad hominem attacks against a dedicated public servant just doesn’t add any value to the conversation. It also happens to be off-topic.

    December 21, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    Let’s not get into name-calling, please. In defense of Dr. Fauci, first, the guy has been doing interviews nonstop for 6-7 months, trying to explain medical commonsense to people in the midst of horrible mis- and dis-information about COVID emanating nonstop from the White House. He just turned 80, and he must be exhausted. God bless the man. Second, I think that his statement was not unreasonable, perhaps erring on the side of caution even when there is insufficient data to draw any firm conclusions one way or another. Maybe he will reconsider his position after having a chance to think about it. The GBS Foundation’s position is equally reasonable, although the absence of data may not be the most solid basis for concluding that the vaccine is safe for GBS patients. We just don’t know one way or the other, do we?

    October 22, 2020 at 6:03 pm

    @Jim-LA That’s tongue-in-cheek, right?

    October 18, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    Hi Robert. I am 62, and a year ago at this time I was holed up in an acute rehab hospital for what turned out to be a month’s stay, give or take. My initial treatment was IVIG. My first week in rehab coincided with the low points of my condition: terrible night pain, severe leg weakness, loss of bladder control, numbness moving from my feet up to my knees…

    What followed was several weeks of intense rehab, mainly physical therapy. After a month I went home — still dependent on a walker — and continued outpatient PT and workouts at home. A month later, I graduated to a cane. A month after that, I was starting to walk on my own. Other symptoms were markedly improved. My recovery was really accelerating during this time. I was driving and returned to work by early January, and not long after that I was able to run some and walk long distances unaided. By Spring I was maybe 80% recovered, by my estimation, and I continued to improve with each month. I’m a very active person, and I think that being in decent shape and doing a lot of physical activity had a lot to do with my recovery.

    The symptoms I have still have are numbness in my right foot, what one might call “slightly reduced” bladder control, as well as occasional trips or stumbles that seem attributable to the GBS, and possibly the foot numbness. Perhaps the it’s damage to the same nerve area that causes all of these things. But these are pretty minor things compared to what many people are experiencing, so I consider myself extremely lucky.

    How about you?

    April 23, 2020 at 1:37 pm

    MDs and other experts: please correct me if I’m off-base on any of this. But I can’t help but think that it’s not always simply a matter of “strong” versus “weak” immune systems. In layman’s terms, those of us who contracted GBS have immune systems that got “tricked” (for lack of a better term) into treating our own nervous system as a foreign invader after an infection or vaccine triggered an immune response. I’m reminded of the more recent articles about how cytokine storms — where immune systems sort of went into high gear and did not stop — might have killed so many young people in the 1919 flu pandemic, and could be playing a role in the current pandemic as well. But, as @Jim-LA pointed out, these immune system reactions are not well-understood.

    March 2, 2020 at 3:50 pm

    how long has it been since the final IVIG does? I actually got worse for a few days after completing the IVIG treatment. The doctors told me this would probably be the case. I started improving — albeit slowly at first — after maybe 5-7 days.

    February 18, 2020 at 12:51 pm

    I’m recovering from GBS (flu shot on 9/26) rather than CIDP, but your mentioning of tightness and pain in the legs resonates. My first two weeks I had excruciating pain and tightness in my legs that kept me up all might. The doctors’ initial expectation was that it was strictly nerve pain and prescribed gabapentin, which did nothing. After sitting the doctors down and describing the pain in detail, they experimented with some combos that targeted the muscles until finally something worked. The key for me was flexeril (cyclobenzaprine, a muscle relaxant); they also gave me baclofen (antispasmodic). So it might be worth getting the doctors to try something along these lines.

    I hope this helps and that you find relief soon!

    December 18, 2019 at 6:57 pm

    I raised the vaccine question at a neurology followup today. I’m particularly interested in the shingrix (not so much the flu shot, which my doctors attributed the GBS to), since I’ve already had the first of two shots and think there’s a decent chance of my getting shingles without the vaccine. The neurologists seem to initially lean against taking vaccines, at least in the first few months or even year or two after contracting GBS. When pressed a little, my doctors agreed to consult with an immunologist before giving me a definitive recommendation. I don’t know what medical professionals think about this, but to me this is more of an immunology question than a neurology question.

    December 18, 2019 at 1:17 pm

    Everyone is different. However, both my own experience (diagnosed 10/6) and what I’ve heard and read tell me that it is common for symptoms to change, whether it’s from day to day, or even hour to hour. I get lots more tingling and “buzzing” in my legs the more active I am. To me, these can a good sign that the nerves are healing, slow as that process may be. My numbness has been fading (almost all in my feet now), but that also seems to change during the day, or from day to night. I was attached to a walker maybe three weeks ago, and now I’m doing the most of my waking unassisted. So things can change quickly, and sometimes for the better! Don’t stop pushing and keep up the good work! And I hope you can find something to help alleviate that night pain. Mine was excruciating, and the doctors had to do a bunch of trial and error until we found something that finally worked.

    November 17, 2019 at 4:47 pm

    This is pretty incredible, and very alarming. I was fortunate to get my 5-day IVIG treatment for AIDP just over a month ago.

    November 8, 2019 at 12:57 pm

    No problem, jon. What do you use the kratom and pot for? Pain? One thing I’ve found out in my short time with GBS is I can get pretty moody, depending on how my symptoms are acting up. Fortunately, I’m not experiencing any pain. Also, I had my EMG/NCS procedure yesterday, and the doctors are convinced that I “only” have demyelination — no axonal damage — and say my prognosis is good. So I’m feeling cautiously optimistic, and hope I can remain patient for my condition to gradually improve over the next few months.

    October 31, 2019 at 9:04 pm

    @jon, I definitely consider myself lucky, and not just within the world of GBS. The experience at the rehab hospital was a real eye opener. I am unable to walk, though, unless you count hobbling around with a walker as walking.

    fwiw, the neurologist has dropped talk of additional treatment pending the results of the EMG.

    October 28, 2019 at 10:12 pm

    Just to add to my initial post, the neurologist who diagnosed and treated me at the hospital recommended no more flue shots and to not get the second dose of shingrix.

    I’ve seen multiple places to record the reaction, which I found confusing. where do people recommend that I do this?

    Also, do people recommend going through the vaccine fund petition process? What kind of documentation is needed and what does the process involve? I’m still three weeks since onset, so I’m in no hurry to throw myself into anything new. I’ve got enough to deal with with my rehab, navigating HMO and hospital bureaucracies, etc.