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Have you tried contacting your State or County Ombudsmen? Ombudsmen are state certified individuals who resolve the problems of residents of nursing homes and residential care facilities for the elderly.
A web search for Side-effects of spironolactone (Brand Name Aldactone) yields this from the Mayo Clinic website: Side Effects: Incidence not known- hair loss or thinning of the hair.
Generalized discussions here and there suggest the initial dose of Aldactone and follow up dosing of spironolactone should be closely monitored. Check with your doctors.
While reading up on prednisone I found both hair loss and increased hair growth mentioned as side effects.
Be careful with the use of Oxycontin.
My infusion rate sorted itself out. If the rate left me finished in 3 hours, or less, I experienced headaches immediately, and then almost everyday until the next infusion. Loading up on water the day before and the day of treatment, in conjunction with an NSAID and some Benadryl combined with a titrated rate calculated to end in 4 hours reduced the headaches.
My prescription included all the above, at my request.
Of course, how long it takes is directly correlated to the total amount infused and the rate. Some people get a lot, some get less. From the gamunex-c website:
“It is recommended that the initial infusion rate be used for the first 30 minutes. If well tolerated, the rate may be gradually increased to a maximum of 0.08 mL/kg per minute (8 mg/kg/min).”
Note the fine print “…if well tolerated.” So, decide if you are tolerating the rate.
Cleveland Clinic is one of the several major Medical Centers I have been to. It was the head of the Neurology Department of Cleveland Clinic, at that time, who stated “No, I don’t think you have CIDP.”
As for if you have CIDP or not, the doctors have to sort that out. Read the Dr Lewis article for a better understanding of the other conditions to consider and rule out. There are many.
Call him and ask why he thinks not. Better yet, collect all the office notes. They belong to you.
Consider changing tactics. For example, one of the Centers of Excellence referred to on this site is The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston (UTHealth). They accept Medicare.
I have had Medicare for more years than I care to count. Every major Medical Center I have been to accepts Medicare.
You may be limited geographically. Although you asked for Texas region (or other). If that’s the case, spread your wings, so to speak and get further away from home. Start with any of the Centers of Excellence. Perhaps one is somewhere that suits your vacation plans.
I also went to Mayo Clinic. A long time ago. One of the many doctors I saw, in fact, the one that mattered, stated “let’s give you IVIG, if you respond positively, then we have our answer.”
Times have changed since then. The major roadblock to getting IVIG now is meeting whatever criteria the insurance company that covers you has laid down. Your attending physician surely has valid reasons for not allowing the treatment.
So, go forth and find a doctor who will authorize some IVIG for you.
GH summed it up. Getting an accurate & correctneurplogical diagnosis is often difficult. Do your own web search for ‘standard criteria to diagnose cidp’ or, sign up for a free account at medscape and read all about it.
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1172965-overview
An article by Dr. Lewis updated in 2016. The article leads off with this: “CIDP typically starts insidiously and evolves slowly, in either a slowly progressive or a relapsing manner, with partial or complete recovery between recurrences; periods of worsening and improvement usually last weeks or months. Most experts consider the necessary duration of symptoms to be greater than 8 weeks for the diagnosis of CIDP to be made.”
SandraP,
Prior to the end of last year I did not receive any treatment for anything. Then, after my hematologist referred me to the immunologist, I was started on IVIG. The dose is 30g once every 4 weeks. As you stated, expected to be forever.
What did the immunologist do? He convinced me to start the IVIG due to the (he said) high risk and great variety of things that can go wrong with a compromised immune system with Igg numbers as low as mine.
It’s for the best if you ask your doctors what you want to know and listen for what they explain.
In my own case, one immunologist said don’t take IVIG, wait until you get sick! No thanks, how can I predict when I’ll get sick so the infusion center will have the IVIG on hand? Worse yet, if someone is sick, the Infusion Center asks that you not come in. A poor recommendation in my judgement.
On the other, I would wish not to be on IVIG forever. So would everyone else on the Primary Immune website I’m sure. I did stumble on a forum over there and it seemed to me some unlucky patients were struck by and stuck with ever re-occuring bouts of shingles. One example of a possible out of control condition when the immune system does not respond effectively.
Hello Sandra,
Welcome to the forum. You may be aware of the Immune Deficiency Foundation.
Their website is: http://primaryimmune.org
They offer a physician locator service at: http://primaryimmune.org/services/locate-a-physician/
However, do your own web search for Immunologist and you’ll likely get the same list the IDF will send you.
I too have CIDP and I believe that I developed a compromised immune system characterized by very low IGg levels after taking immunosuppressants.
However, I see an Immunologist for the immune condition, not a neurologist. Those are two distinct specializations. The only interaction between the two diseases that I just made up is that they are part and parcel of the same system but act through different agents.
A quote from the IDF: “Common Variable Immune Deficiency (CVID) is one of the most frequently diagnosed primary immunodeficiencies, especially in adults, characterized by low levels of serum immunoglobulins and antibodies, which causes an increased susceptibility to infection. While CVID is thought to be due to genetic defects, the exact cause of the disorder is unknown in the large majority of cases.”
Notice the generalization… ‘thought to be due to genetic defects…’ Maybe so, but mine did not manifest until the various CIDP treatments were in play.
I went to USF, once, in an attempt to see Dr Gooch. Sadly, I was seen by someone else. A Doctor who stated, after a short in-office clinical review and reviewing my files only, “No, you do not have CIDP.”
Well, guess what, yes I do. Just not the textbook version. The moral of my story is to keep searching until you find both a doctor and a treatment that works or a clear and definitive diagnosis that no known treatment is likely to work.
Some people find relief from the side effects of IVIG:
1. As you stated, slow it down. Must infusion centers probably have automatic, digital, battery powered pumps by now. It’s hard to verify the rate the nurse puts in. If necessary, have your doctor write an order for the desired rates. Some patients simply cannot handle the IVIG manufacturers’ stated rates.
2. Drink a lot of water the day prior to and the day of infusion.
3. Take an NSAID- ask your doctor
4. Pre-treat with benadryl. Some people take their own, some people get an RX for the infusion center from their doctor.Ask you doctor about 3 and 4.
I see in your reply that the doctor is already giving him more IVIG. And, I understand you wish it were you. I bet if it were you he would wish it was him.
Response to IVIG in patients varies. Patients who respond to IVIG generally do so within 2-6 weeks. However, this improvement will not last and IVIG must be repeated every 2-4 weeks. Perhaps your husband would benefit from more IVIG more often. Ask your doctor about this.
Some patients may eventually stop responding to IVIG. And, sadly, some patients may not respond at all to IVIG.
I have quoted this from PubMed for you: “The correct diagnosis, however, can be difficult to make in patients with atypical or overlapping presentations, or nondefinitive laboratory studies. First-line treatments include intravenous immunoglobulin (IVIg), corticosteroids or plasmapheresis for CIDP; IVIg for MMN; rituximab for anti-MAG neuropathy; and irradiation or chemotherapy for POEMS syndrome. A correct diagnosis is required for choosing the appropriate treatment, with the aim of preventing progressive neuropathy.”
In my own case, several major medical centers never did agree on my diagnosis. You mention you’ve already seen 4 neurologists. At least consider finding a center of excellence from this website and seek another opinion.
Click here: https://www.gbs-cidp.org/support/centers-of-excellence-2/
It becomes a long, difficult and discouraging battle. Don’t give up.
I realize you are still working so how much you cannot do, that is, limits on your performance, seem a little out of your control.
If you have sensory involvement it’s expected you would feel that damage and the corresponding recovery and relapses.
There are probably several things going on simultaneously with your neuromuscular situation. First of all is the damage to the nerves themselves. This may take the form of simple myelin damage, or it may progress to include axonal damage and, sadly, axonal loss. I think of it as rats chewing on the wires to my motors. In the sections where the rats ate all the way through, my motor is not going run.
Secondly, I do not mean that p/t is not useful rather it has similarities to a spinal cord victim. The signal will not go through. That section of muscle is not going to respond because the signal is gone, at best, not correct. Imagine the muscle fibers with good nerve conduction still working trying to do what it is you could do before. Not gonna happen because not all the muscle fibers are firing correctly yet.
Thirdly, You’ll self-discover your limits. Keep track of them and try not to exceed them. Whenever I did I paid a bad, severe cramping and increased fasiculation price. From finger cramps to leg cramps to muscle failure your body will yell at you when you’ve done too much.
Recovery is time and treatment dependent to the extent there is not irreversible axonal loss. Myelin and axonal recovery takes time. It occurs sequentially from your core out, not concurrently everywhere at the same time.
Same as Jim-La I have a list of things I was previously unable to do. Turn a key in the ignition, pull zippers, do buttons, hold chopsticks, open a water bottle, hold a pencil, open those stupid little packs of pretzels or peanuts on the airplane and on and on.
I am able to do most of those things now. As Jim stated, little by little over at least 3 years. And, same as Jim, I have areas of loss that will never recover.
Yes, by all means, if you can be seen at a Center of Excellence that would be beneficial.
I consider this quote from
- Ther Adv Neurol Disord. 2012 Nov; 5(6): 359–373
to sum up a lot of things:
“Although guidelines for the diagnosis and treatment of CIDP have been developed, the large variety of clinical and electrophysiological variants, associated systemic conditions, and lack of sustained improvement with standard treatments in up to one third of cases provide challenges to the clinician in practice.”
The detailed answers to some of your questions are covered here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3487533/
and here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3487533/
I hold a vague recollection that multi-focal motor neuropathy (mmn) responds poorly to prednisone and it has CSF protein: Mildly elevated in 33%.
You’re on the right track to find good doctors to help you sort this out.
There is a different condition previously called ‘tulip-bulb digger’s palsy’ or ‘potato-grubbing palsy. The idea was that if you spent too much time on bent knee you might get numbness and even foot drop. It’s the reason for some of us to have the PM-22 gene deletion genetic tests.
How is this relevant? Be aware that if you have myelin sheath damage to your sensory nerves, therefore, the nerve bundle may be sensitive to pressure damage. Consider your limbs’ position prior to the numbness. In my case both of my arms are particularly sensitive to lower arm numbness at night when I’m asleep and I cross both arms across my chest.
When I’m driving with either arm on the car door or between the seat arm rests for a long period of time is also problematic for me. The peroneal nerve bundle is at risk at the point where you cross your legs.
Observe your episodes and see if you get relief from avoiding pressure points.
It is probably just as important to rule out certain diseases as it is to rule in what you do have.
Please review the “Related disorders” paragraph of this report (Another good article by Dr. Lewis.) from the National Organization for Rare Disorders. These and other genetic disorders need to be ruled out if your doctor deems it necessary.
https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/chronic-inflammatory-demyelinating-polyneuropathy/
Some forms of CIDP may be termed Relasping-Remitting. That is, they follow a pattern of getting better and then getting worse. You can find this quote from the Genetic and Rare Diseases Information Center: “For most people with CIDP the condition is slowly progressive, but about one-third of people experience a relapsing-remitting course (relapses of symptoms with partial or complete recovery in between).”