Doctors in Seattle

    • Anonymous
      March 5, 2013 at 6:50 pm

      Hi There, I have now had GBS for 3 years this week. I still get week if I push myself at all. I really want to get better, but I don’t know how to get there. I’m not too impressed with the Neurologist that initially diagnosed me in the hospital. His solution seemed to be to put me on antidepressants. I have tried to work out to different degrees , but either ultimately it wears me out, or I get sick. If anyone knows of anyone that is knowledgable about GBS in Seattle please let me know. There are no Centers of Excellence listed for Seattle.

    • GH
      March 6, 2013 at 4:14 am

      When antidepressants are offerred to a patient, they are not intended as a solution to GBS, but as a treatment for depression. I was offerred antidepressants too, but I refused them. You don’t have to take anything you don’t want to.

      Are you saying that you had no treatment at all for GBS? No IvIg? That would be the usual thing. But since you are three years out, and GBS peaks in eight weeks or less, presumably you have been recovering to some extent since then. Is that correct? Treatments for GBS are mostly given during the active phase, to lessen the effects of the disorder (IvIg or plasma exchange), and as support for ancillary problems (breathing difficulty and blood clots, for example). Once you are in the recovery phase, the main treatment is physical therapy. If you have nerve damage, there is nothing much to do besides wait for the nerves to heal to the extent they will.

      Seattle is large enough that there ought to be several neurologists there with good experience with GBS. It isn’t necessary to be at a Center of Excellence — I had excellent care (for CIDP) at a hospital which was not so rated, and had neurologists who were well versed in the disorder.

      As for working out, it is important to find the right level and not overdo it. Are you seeing a physical therapist or doing it on your own?

    • Anonymous
      March 6, 2013 at 5:23 am

      First off, thanks for the response. Are you a doctor?
      “When antidepressants are offerred to a patient, they are not intended as a solution to GBS, but as a treatment for depression.” “You don’t have to take anything you don’t want to.” – Yes of course. My point is that it wasn’t helpful for my GBS and that is what I’m looking for. I didn’t care for my Neurologist and he didn’t seem to be offering anything to actually help; This is why I was asking If there was someone that could be recommended as being of more help.
      Are you saying that you had no treatment at all for GBS? No IvIg? “- No, I’m not saying that. I had the IvIg when initially admitted to the hospital, as well as some physical therapy until that ran out. My interest is now.
       “presumably you have been recovering to some extent since then. Is that correct?” – After the first year It’s remained pretty much the same for the most part. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. I’m able to walk, but not very far. Walking steps is hard. If I push myself at all I am toast the next day. If I try to pick up a pan my hand shakes.
      Treatments for GBS are mostly given during the active phase, to lessen the effects of the disorder (IvIg or plasma exchange), and as support for ancillary problems (breathing difficulty and blood clots, for example). Once you are in the recovery phase, the main treatment is physical therapy. If you have nerve damage, there is nothing much to do besides wait for the nerves to heal to the extent they will.
       OK, well I’m still having trouble so… Are you saying that all I can do is physical therapy or wait at this point? There seems to be a bit of a disconnect here. The physical therapist I went to had no real understanding of GBS or the limitations I was under. They also didn’t have me do anything I couldn’t do on my own. There has to be something more I can do, and this is what I am looking for.
      Seattle is large enough that there ought to be several neurologists there with good experience with GBS.” – OK, so I’m looking for someone who might be more informed on GBS specifically, or doctor that someone with GBS has had a positive experience with in Seattle.
      It isn’t necessary to be at a Center of Excellence — I had excellent care (for CIDP) at a hospital which was not so rated, and had neurologists who were well versed in the disorder.” – I’m glad you had a successful recovery.
      “As for working out, it is important to find the right level and not overdo it. Are you seeing a physical therapist or doing it on your own?”
      On my own. Sorry If any of my answers come off as abrasive at all. I’m not much of a typist; this took me about an hour to type.

    • GH
      March 6, 2013 at 2:53 pm

      No, I am not a doctor. I am merely someone who had an extreme case of CIDP, which is similar to GBS. My case was atypical, and more resembled GBS in its early presentation. I had considerable dealings with doctors, nurses, therapists, and technicians of various kinds during my illness and recovery.

      Assuming the disease is no longer active, recovery is a matter of nerve healing. There is no treatment for damaged nerves, although vitamin B12 is said by some to promote nerve healing. I take it, but make no claims for it.

      Physical therapy rebuilds strength and coordination in muscles that have become re-enervated, but does not cause nerve healing itself. So if you are not seeing a PT, then it’s just a matter of exercising what needs work. A therapist should be more systematic about working different muscle groups with appropriate exercises, which a person on their own might not know how to do.

      Many therapists do not understand GBS because they work mostly with sports injuries, which are far more common than GBS. Even neurologists may have little experience with it, although any neurologist should know something about it. There’s nothing a neurologist can do to heal nerves, however. I see my neurologist only every six months now, and all he does is check my strength to make sure I am not relapsing. He also prescribes medication, and checks my blood test for side effects, but this is for CI! Not GBS.

    • March 29, 2013 at 4:02 pm

      Recently diagnosed with CIDP and was lucky to be admitted to Swedish Cherry Hill Intensive Rehab in Seattle.  In a little over a month and a half I was mobile in both a wheelchair & walker at Swedish.  The PT/OT works and is WORK.  But then I had a relapse which I am now trying to work out of again.  But the point for the original poster, i.e., a Doctor, I’ll point to 3 of mine at Swedish, Dr Kushner (my admitter), Dr Shelly/Shelia Smith, and a musculer/skeleton specialist Dr Lee Lou (probably mis-spelled last name).

    • July 15, 2013 at 1:19 am

      For those with CIDP who have sufficient financial resources and/or insurance coverages (non Medicare) and are brave enough to undergo a Stem Cell transplant in Seattle, check out this Clinical trial: http://www.fhcrc.org/en/treatment/clinical-trials/detail.7303.html

      I am considering it for myself since I was disqualified from the Chicago SCT program due to age. I am waiting for the new Medicare provision that kicks in on 1/1/14. The “wording” should be available in a couple months so we can see what is covered and what is not. This new Medicare provision specifically expands participation in Clinical Trials. Details are here for those interested: http://www.cms.gov/CCIIO/Resources/Fact-Sheets-and-FAQs/aca_implementation_faqs15.html

      JimT