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  • November 9, 2006 at 7:20 pm

    I block myself out of pictures also. When people say “I don’t see anything wrong with your face” I want to clock em for lying to me. I have had some reletives tell me that they see a difference and I appreciate their sincerety.

    Schel

    November 9, 2006 at 7:16 pm

    [QUOTE=Mike]Schel —

    Let me clarify one thing in my rant. My neuros were outstanding when I finally got to them. They immediately identified the affliction and began decisive agressive treatment. And they stuck with me until I was ready to take ownership of my recovery. My beef is with the front-line guys, and it’s not that they don’t recognize the GBS/MF when they see it. That’s ok. It’s an obscure affliction. But they don’t even seem to recognize the seriousness of the symptoms the patient is presenting. The take-two-aspirin-and-call-me-next-week approach is the worst possible response.

    Mike[/QUOTE]

    Thats what I was trying to say also.
    Schel

    November 7, 2006 at 10:32 pm

    [QUOTE=Mike]I’m just astonished, both through my own experience and the experiences related by so many other participants in this forum, at the ignorance and stubborness of ER docs and PCPs when it comes to this illness. Granted, Miller Fisher is an obscure variant of an obscure condition, but you would think they’d have enough training and exposure outside their own specialties to at least recognize it as a serious neuro condition and steer patients in the right direction for help. The constant litany of “it’s all in your head”, “it’s just anxiety” or “it’s your allergies acting up” that seems to run through all the posts on this site is infuriating. Are docs just too proud to admit they haven’t got a clue and punt the ball to someone who does? It makes me wonder about all the other things besides GBS/MF that I’ve ever seen a doctor for. When they’ve treated my various headaches and upset stomachs and chest pains and the like, have they just been making it up?[/QUOTE]

    Mike,
    It is a sad thing. I am a nurse in a clinic, and have worked long term care and hospital. Now that I have seen how the whole thing works, it is sad, the bottom line comes down to $$. Some docs are better and some are not so understanding and there to get you “in and out,” and collect their $$. I do not have much faith in our ER docs, they are what we call “RENT A DOCS” this means they are highered from a “POOL” like a nursing pool. So that means they get the bucu bucks and there is nothing for them to get attatched to because they are basically there to fill a spot. Work their 8 or 12 hour shift and move on.
    Sad isn’t it?
    I could go on and on, but I am tired and need to hit the hay.
    Take care.
    Schel

    November 6, 2006 at 10:59 pm

    Teresa,
    FMLA stands for Family Medical Leave Act. I am covered, and they assure me that I cannot loose my job. I do not have the most understanding “nurse manager” though. Thats right, I am a nurse and so is she. I recently started giving the flu shots this season and very carful to use gloves to do all, draw it up, give it and get rid of the syrringe and needle before removing my gloves and washing my hands. Thing is though, I might have rubbed my chin without thinking and my chin might have got a little on myself because after, I got real itchy and red in that spot for about an hour. Symptoms started shortly a few days later. I don’t think that is why, but my dad wants me to address this with my doctor. My dad said it could be work comp, but how would they prove it, since I never reported it. Dumb on my part. I did say something to my coworkers at the time about it.

    Oh well enough babbling, I have to get some sleep.
    Take care and thanks for all your support and words of wisdom.
    Schel 🙂

    November 6, 2006 at 10:49 pm

    [QUOTE=csauls]During the last week or so of March 2003, I developed a dry cough. A few days later my tongue became cold sensitive. I then developed problems swallowing and my feet began to “tingle”. On the morning of April 2, my face was partially paralyzed. I could not smile so I knew I was in trouble and to the emergency room I went. I was given a battery of tests and admitted to ICU. Slowly and surely, I lost control of the muscles from just below my neck up. I lost the ability to swallow and had to be suctioned. Three despairing days later, I was placed on a ventilator. A few days after that a trach was placed. I felt safe for the first time and began my recovery. My eyes were set in the closed position, I could not speak or breathe. However, I could write and my mind was clear and unaffected. I was able to give instructions to my grandson to take care of my affairs. My grandson did research on GBS and the statistics were favorable and gave me hope. As all of you know, Hope is a very useful tool to have in this condition. I was in ICU for about 3 weeks before being transfered to the hospital’s rehabilitation unit for another 30 days. My diagnosis was Guillain-Barre, Miller-Fisher variant.

    It has been 3.4 years now and for the most part I have recovered. I still lack complete control of my tongue and my speech is somewhat impaired. I do have some upper body weakness but I can eat, swallow and breathe on my own and for that I am grateful.[/QUOTE]

    I am very glad that for you your ER took you serious. God bless you for all you went through and stiil have to go through.

    My ER said I was drug seeking and said there was nothing they could do for me and sent me on my way. By the next day my whole face was paralized and they still said it was me. “Anxiety” I have little faith in the Minnesota Health care system.

    Take care.
    Schel

    November 6, 2006 at 10:36 pm

    [QUOTE=Sally Sobieralski]Schel – did you have MF or GBS or Both – I really feel after 8 months I am getting worse – but hate to be a complainer –
    Thanks,
    Sally[/QUOTE]

    Sally,
    YOU ARE NOT A COMPLAINER!!!

    I had GBS “with” MFV. My face was totally paralized, some swallowing difficulties, slurred speech, sensitive vision to light and occ. double vision, Extreme pain on a scale of 1-10 mine being a 12 behind my ears, inside my ears, the sides of my head, and low back of my head.
    I also had numbness all over my body, I felt as if I was in fake skin, because I could not feel it, my feet, legs, arms and hands were numb and tingling along with extreme low back pain a #12 also because my bowels were also affected. Nothing they gave me in the hospital helped for the pain unless it knocked me out and I was sleeping. I could not walk more than a couple feet without sitting or leaning and could not even go up or down steps with out help on discharge at the hospital. I unlike others was never ventilized. My “QUACK” of a doc never started treatment. I did get out of breath with the simplest of tasks though. My treatment was put off because the “Willy Wonka” I saw said “I think you will improve on your own!” I call him Willy Wonka because thats what he looks like and he has the commen sence of a rock.

    Please no offence to Willy Wonka!!! lol

    Sometimes I wish I was a Neuro, because I would be different and actually LISTEN to my patient and not just base everything on “WHAT A BOOK SAYS.”

    I also am sorry if I sound bitter. I probably am.

    Did they treat you? If so did they treat you right away? Or did they wait?
    If you feel you are getting worse get in to see your Neuro and DEMAND to be treated or restarted on some treatment. You need to be aggressive with them, they are not there to see how you are all the time; only do a 10-15 minute exam and base it on that. They are not there to see how you are the rest of the time so paint a good picture for them.

    Well I am going to hit the hay, very tired.
    Take care and stay well.
    Prayers now to you!
    Schel

    November 6, 2006 at 5:46 pm

    [QUOTE=angel2ndclass22699]TA wonderful letter!!! what i would give to be a fly on the wall when that self degreed dr/work personal, nosey lady read and tried to reply to that beautifully edited letter!:) actually i would need to video tape that situation.:D
    shan you know You the Girl!!!!:) your wonderful to be there for ben like you always are. HUGS!!!

    schel, you need to do the fmla papers quickly otherwise they won’t be excepted for this illness time. best be prepared in times like these then to put more stress on yourself worrying about what will happen if…[/QUOTE]

    I did. today I made the call. I am so scared to loose my job, even though I know I am protected. Sigh…
    I know I need to put the stress factor on a vacation; otherwise I know that does not help matters.
    Thanks.
    Schel

    November 6, 2006 at 7:08 am

    [QUOTE=Teresa Anne]Hi

    Now you see, I am naughty. I would enjoy thinking about writing to the person concerned stating:

    “I was delighted to learn that you do not think the symptoms I am experiencing are a re-occurrence of GBS. It is a great relief to know that you are sure it cannot happen again. Would you be so good as to let me know what precisely it is that you think is happening and what actions I might take in order to help myself to get better?

    I was surprised to learn that it was not GBS again, as the medical researchers in the field state that GBS can in fact occur again, in anyone, and that there is no immunity built in to a first attack. Also, because there are those who have in fact had GBS more than twice and there are families where GBS has hit 3 or more people.

    I had been given to understand that, as with polio – where the central nervous system is attacked, and thus the post polio syndrome can appear years later – it would appear that the same may be true of GBS, where the peripheral nervous system is attacked.

    Although the cause of GBS is unknown, medical research is on-going.

    I look forward to your reply as to what it is that you believe is happening and what medical intervention you consider necessary.”

    Why do I enjoy the idea of writing such a letter? Simply because if someone is trying to be a twit (at my expense) I don’t mind helpng them. Just imagine, how the heck they would try to answer it. (And I bet they would to).

    I know that is not a letter we would write but go on – wouldn’t you love to?

    As to Shannon being told ‘ not to worry, because the rest of the review was positive’ simply states that being absent in order to take someone to the hospital is considered a negative by the employer. If that is how they really feel they would have no problem having their position put in the public domain. Yes?

    It’s funny how different people can be. I used to do Staff Reports, I would have put Shannon as a caring, concerned and decisive individual, able to quickly assess and deal with emergencies. A person who could prioritise. I would be interested to know what the person who interviewed Shannon would consider a ‘correct response’ to the situation she met.

    Oh, I’ll shut up[/QUOTE]

    Thank you for that kind letter! I will need to print it out should the oppertunity arrise to pass it along to those who need to be “enlightened”
    I am still having symptoms today, and did “call in” to that same person. I also will be calling HR to see about an FMLA, if symptoms persist.
    Thank you to all you have been a great support.
    Schel

    November 5, 2006 at 7:36 pm

    [QUOTE=Sally Sobieralski]Jim – since there are not that many Miller Fisher patients – how are you doing now – from my reading the info. they say 97% of the people recover 100% within 6 months – I am now going on 8 months and feel the same I did at the end of 4 months – mainly fatique and numb face, mouth, teeth and tongue with a burning sensation. I am 59 yrs and have no idea how I got it.
    Sore upper arms and back at night when I get tired.
    Thanks,
    Sally[/QUOTE]

    Sally,

    I was initally diagnosed in July 2002. I would like to know who “THEY” are. I am in no means coming down on you, I just know that no one GBS patient is the same. My unknowledgable Neuro told me the same “6 months” and he also said that I would be better without treatment. Well was he wrong!!! (A real idiot!) I got worse without treatment and now am suffering with residuals/unsure if I am getting it again.

    Every time I go on on this subject, I want to make him suffer as I do because he had the empathy of a rock.

    I hate this ride I have been given, but if Doctors and Neuros would be a little more educated in this maybe it would be a little more tolerable for all of us.
    I am just venting and not mad at anyone here, I only have prayers to offer all who suffer with this like I do.

    Thanks,
    Schel

    November 4, 2006 at 7:58 pm

    Thank you to everyone with your words of support and wisdom. I WILL make sure to “Enlighten” the Ms. “know it all” of her lack in knowledge with all your notes. Sigh of relief…ahhhah!
    😮

    November 4, 2006 at 7:56 pm

    [QUOTE=gene]schel,

    RU over doing it lately? if so, you need lots & lots of rest. if not, hurry up your appointment & get an emg/ncv. if damage is shown, you need ivig or pp asap. take care. be well.

    gene gbs 8-99
    in numbers there is strength[/QUOTE]

    Thanks Gene, I think I have been in denial and need ot move on to accecptance that this is really happening again possibly. I WILL call on Monday AM, and let everyone know what happens.

    Schel

    November 4, 2006 at 3:57 pm

    [QUOTE=deedee]Someone mentioned in a past post about medicine that helps with the pins and needles feeling. What is the name of that medicine so I can mention it at my husband’s next dr appt.[/QUOTE]

    That might be neurontin.
    Schel

    November 3, 2006 at 7:00 pm

    [QUOTE=ktwomack]Hey Canukgirl,

    We’ve talked before. I read the literature that you told me about and I had an “ah-ha” moment! I was never formally diagnosed with Miller Fischer but now realize that I most certainly have every single symptom, including residual facial paralysis (mostly on the right). I have regular spasms that are not controlled with meds. I also have dealt with the lower extremeties weakness, mostly in my knees and ankles. I have occasional falls and have resulted in wearning only low or no heeled shoes to prevent damage due to a fall. This is all after 5 years of “recovery”. I can’t stand to look at myself in pictures anymore…..there is only a lopsided smirk left. KT[/QUOTE]

    I am with you there! I hate what I look like now!
    Schel

    October 31, 2006 at 10:56 am

    [QUOTE=gene]schel,

    you said it yourself. you’ve taken on more & feel its effects. you are over doing it. scale back & you will feel beter. take care. be well.

    gene gbs 8-99
    in numbers there is strength[/QUOTE]

    Thanks Gene. I am just so frustrated. I try and try and the former Neuro I saw (which I wouldn’t give you 2 cents for) said that I am 98% recovered. He doesn’t see that my face is permanently not the same as before, or the fatigue with the symptoms I have if I do to much, because clearly I can’t do like I did before, because before, I worked a full time job and then always something on the side for extra spending money, had a spotless house, everything always had its place, was on the go constsantly etc…. Now I have made it to part time, my house is a mess due to the less energy, I do try though to keep up on it, I can’t do like I did before, and if I try to do any more, these symptoms come back to haunt me.

    I am sorry to complain. But I got to get it out and I thank you for listening.

    Schel

    October 30, 2006 at 2:50 pm

    Thanks Pam. I did make an appointment with my neurologist and FP doc.
    I guess what concerns me is the fact that in the past if I over did it, rest would almost always help. This time it just plain is not going away. My tongue feels like I have those square batteries on it. My legs arms feet and hands feel like I have pins and needles in them. It’s kind of scaring me.
    Schel