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  • August 19, 2009 at 11:43 am

    My spinal taps were normal and EMG’s while off, were not conclusive, so I had the sural nerve and thight muscle biopsies. Had an excellent neuro surgeon and had no problems with either site. Got positive confirmation on the CIDP dx. Only residual is a numb spot on the side of my foot where the sural nerve was removed. Never experienced any pain at either site. It has been 13 years now.
    Fred

    August 18, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    Kim,

    Dr. Jonathan D. Glass specializes in rare neurological disorders. He was recommeded to me by two of the presenting physicians at the Chicago symposium last year. He practicies out of The Emory Clinic in Atlanta. His phone number is 404-778-3444.
    I opted to cancel my appointment to see him for a second opinion when my condition improved, however I do have a close personal friend who was recently diagnosed with ALS who sees him now and has had only good things to say about his care. Good luck in your search.
    Fred

    August 18, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Hi RJmutz

    As one who went through GBS, and now relapsing CIDP, I agree with
    Angel2ndclass’ coments about CIDP. From your short post, it does not appear the doctors are very interested in your daughters case. Have you considered the Univ of Texas neuro clinic in Austin for a second opinion? If memory serves me correctly from the last symposium (and some times it does not) they have several doctors who specialize in GBS and CIDP. Has your daughter been tested for CIDP? Have they also checked/tested her for other neuro diseases such as MS, Parkinson’s, etc? Has your daughter’s doctor or her physical medicine doctor handled any other cases of GBS?
    It is a tough disease, physically and mentally, but keep after it. A second opinion from someone who specializes in rare neuromuscluar diseases may be a fresh start for your daughter and give her some hope for the future. Good luck to you both.
    The chair mentioned in another post is a good idea, but a teen will have issues with a wheel chair just because. I have a very small flashy red 4 wheeler scooter that weighs only 65 pounds and folds up to carry on luggage size in about 10 seconds and I can take it anywhere. It runs 10 miles on a 6 hour charge. I have a lot of fun with it and gives me opportunities to get out and enjoy things requiring lots of walking, that I would not otherwise be able to do. This may be something that would encourage your daughter to get out to the mall to shop, go to a movie with some friends, etc. while keeping the pressure off her legs. I’ve used mine to tour college campus’s, car shows, antique malls, acquariums, etc. Since it is not my electric chair, I never get a second look, other than people who want to know where they can get one. No one associates this little red scooter with physical limitations.
    Look for the positives in what you can do, rather than dwell on the negative of what you can’t.

    August 16, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    I have been on cellcept for about 8 years now and have had no negative results from the medication. That along with plasma exchange and IV solumedrol kept me fairly stable for many years.

    At the end of 08, I began a pretty rapid decline, so my neuro agreed to add Gamunex (other IVIG products did not work for me in the past) to the treatment protocal. Wow, what a difference. Since the Gamunex was added, I have returned to a pretty much normal life. Have not regained much of the muscle strength I lost over the years, but my endurance lets me go like the energizer bunny. Six months ago I could not drive more than an hour at a time on a good day. Gamunex differs from other IVIG products in that it is processed with glycine rather than sucrose.

    Just got back from a 2600 mile road trip through 7 states over six days and never missed a beat. We are leaving for the Georgia coast on Thursday, so there is no question about the improvement I have experienced. I feel very fortunate to have a doctor who is not afraid to try different combinations of treatments until we find one that works.

    I see my neuro this week and we are going to talk about eliminating the cellcept and see if the Gamunex and PP can keep me stable. Currently I take 2000 mg cellcept daily and have PP with 500 mg IV solumedrol, then the next day I get 200 grams of Gamunex. I have been doing this every three weeks since Christmas with the objective being to stop the activity of the disease. After three months on this treatment protocal, the CIDP progression stopped and I began to see the improvements and they continue.

    I have been fighting this since 1996 (also had GBS in 1985), and was making modifications to our house for a wheelchair when Gamunex was added to my treatment. These have stopped and now my wife and I can travel as we had always planned to do when I retired, so don’t give up. Work with your doctor and ask about other treatment options, or combinations of treatments until you find the one that works for you. As everyone will tell you, not everyone responds the same to the various treatments, so be persistant. Keep fighting and good luck.
    Fred

    July 15, 2009 at 8:34 am

    Yes, there is a difference in IVIG Brands. Gamunex is the only brand processed using Glycene (amino acid), while all the others use sucrose. Gamunex was approved by the FDA for treating CIDP in September of 2008. I had been on other IVIG brands several times over the years with no response, however when they tried Gamunex in December 08, I began to see improvement, which continues. I get 200 grams every three weeks.
    Fred

    June 17, 2009 at 11:17 am

    tjay,
    Dick is right about SS looking at any work. When completing your claim form, do not list what you can do that makes you tired, tell them all of the things you need help with, or are no longer able to do. Take your worst day and use that as your basis for your claim. Its not the good days that hinder us, its the bad ones. Build your case with your doctor through your medical records. Tell him/her the declines and loss of ability to do things you could do last month, but can’t do this month, etc.
    I keep a diary(for over 13 years now) so when I go to my doc, I have everything in writing to review with him, so everything we discuss is “objective”, not “subjective”. I update it weekly. This allows me to review activities and any negative fallout and i have everything in chronological order. This has been a great tool for me. It also allows me to keep track of all of the treatments used over the years, how long I was on each, the results, dates etc. which eliminates the need to try to remember everything.
    When you go to the store, have you considered using the electric carts most provide? This is a great energy saver. This also gives you an opportunity on the SS forms to say that you use an electric scooter because you are unable to walk only short distances without chronic fatigue. Another thing that helped me was that my job required a lot of travel, driving for several hours sometime, when I could no longer drive more than 30-45 minutes, I had to have another employee drive me to many of our business meetings. My employer provided a letter verfying my inability to drive but only short distances, thus no longer able to do my job. This was supported in my medical records, and with no public transportation, getting to any job was not possible. This is the type of information that will help you in the process. SSDI income isn’t great, but it helps. Good luck,
    Fred

    June 16, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    Jan,
    Yes, Gamunex is almost the same cosistancy as Kayro. Because of this, they infuse me at a 250 mg/hr rate and I have no problems. If they run it faster, I get headaches and swelling at the infusion side, then usually get a pretty bad rash a day or two after the infusion. Have not had those side effects at the 250 rate. I have another one scheduled for Friday.
    Fred

    June 11, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    It is my understanding that the glycine/amino acid enables the product to interact better in the imune system when interfacing with F receptors on the cells, which may have a roll in containing antiviral antibodies.
    That being said, I am not sure exactly what it means. A neuro that I saw while in Chicago at the GBS/CIDP symposium for a second opinion about the treatment program I had been on, suggested that I try Gamunex as he had been following their studies and said they were having better results when compared to other IVIG products and the improvements experienced by clinical patients lasted for longer periods. He was very adament that for the FDA to approve Gamunex for the treatment of CIDP it had to be different that other IVIG products.
    Knowing that we all respond differently to the various treatments, it is important to have a physician that understands the disease and who is willing to try something different. Hope this helps. Good luck.
    Fred

    June 8, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Hi Redchipster,
    I have been fighting cidp for nearly 14 years now with the past 2-3 showing a slow but steady decline across the board. I’ve been on imuran, cellcept, cyclorsporan retuxan, oral prednisone, PE, etc. The progression was slowed significantly with PE and IV solumedrol every 2-3 weeks for several years, but when my progression began to speed up, I tried pretty much everything else out there including four MS drugs, two of which are still in clinical studies. With no results from the MS drugs and PE and IV solumedrol no longer slowing things down, I asked my doctor if I could try Gamunex, brand specific IVIG, since it was approved by the FDA for CIDP in September 08. I know that for a drug to get FDA approval for a speciffic illness, there has to be something different from similar medications in order to obtain such approval.

    My doctor reminder me that we had already tried IVIG several times over the years with no success. He told me all IVIG products were the same, however when I researched Gamunex, I found that it is processed using amino acid rather than sucrose used with all of the other IVIG products. When I showed him the clinical results for Gamunex, and how they were better than “regular” IVIG, he agreed to put me on it for 6 months to see if it worked.

    And WOW, what a treasure find this has been for me. After just three months, my improvement has been so good that he plans to take me off PE and IV solumedrol and just use Gamunex if I am the same or better when I go back in August. I currently get PE and 500mg IV solumedrol one day, then 100 grams of Gamunex the following day, every three weeks. Neither the doctor nor I know why it is working, but it is, which is the only thing that matters. My walk gaint is nearly normal, I can again drive for hours at a time, can do yard work and hobbies, things that just 4 months ago were not possible. Sorry to ramble, but my message is to not give up and keep searching for different treatments or treatment combinations until you find the one that works for you. It took me nearly 14 years to hit on Gamunex, but I now see improvement every day vs the daily decline for so long. Good luck.
    Fred

    June 8, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Carly,
    I don’t know how good you veins are, but if they are good, you can have PE with veina punctues rather than relying on a cath. I had failure with 5 caths, but have successfully had over 100 PE’s with needle sticks as often as weekly, over the past 4 years. At the end of the PE I get 500 mg IV solumedrol with loss of sleep for 1 night the only side effect. As an alternative, I have also had pulse IV solumedrol infusions, usually 1 gram three days in a row, once a month in place of oral prednisone, when I was off PE. Don’t know if any of this is an option for you, but thought I would let you know my PE success without a cath. Good luck.
    Fred

    June 5, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    MAC34,
    Sorry to here about your difficulties,but don’t give up. Have you tried to see someone at Duke? If you are on SSDI and have a CIDP dx, no way should any doctor suggest you are drug shopping. That simply shows their complete lake of knowledge about the disease.
    On the positive side, I bought an electric wheel chair a year ago, November as I was excpected to be in it within a few months. But with changes in treatment, it is sitting. I have regained strength, mobility, endurance and a reasonably normal life. I stopped work 3 1/2 years ago and was approved for SSDI which is how bad I got, but it has turned around due to a neuro that was willing to throw everything know at it. After years of imuran, rutixan, various MS drugs, oral prednisone, IV solumedro, PE and IVIG, we settled on plasma exchanges with IV solumedrol which really slowed the progression, but did not stop it.

    Then, when the FDA approved Gamunex last year(a brand of IVIG processed with glycene rather than sucrose) we opted to try IVIG again using this specific brand and wow, what a change. I am still doing PE every three weeks, then 100 grams of Gamunex the day after PE. This combination, for me, has not only stopped the progression, but I have regained so much lost over the years. Can now drive for several hours at a time, do yard work, shop, work on antique cars, walk up stairs, etc. All things that were not possible six months ago. But, this is how I have responded, and as you state, we all react differently to the various treatments. The key is never give up.

    If you can’t find a doctor close to you that will offer treatment, Atlanta is a day trip for you, but the MS Center of Atlanta has some great neuro’s and I have been with Dr. William Stuart for over 12 years. As previously stated, he never once refused to try a treatment that might help.

    I have a good friend ( has ALS) that sees Dr. Jonathan Glass at Emory. He specializes in neuro muscular diseases and was recommeded by two of the presenting neuro’s at the International GBS/CIDP Symposium in Chicago last fall. It takes a while to get an appointment with him, but Emory dose have its own in house PE unit.
    Good luck and keep after it.
    Fred

    June 5, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    Hi Jersey Shore

    My experience is a little different. I only have part A, so when I have a hospital bill, the hospital bills medicare first as primary, then my private coverage under my wife’s employer covers 80 % of the co-pays, so I end up only owing a few dollars. The hospital I use is on my wife’s plan network, so whaterver they reduce the bill to is what the hospital must accept. This only applies to “in-patient” services, so it may not help you. Good luck,
    Fred

    June 5, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Hi Kevin,
    What a difficult situation. As an ex insurance claims person I would suggest you check into a couple of things.

    First, there was federal legislation passed and signed into law that says an insurance company cannot deny coverage for pre-existing conditions if you can produce a letter showing that you had valid coverge with another carrier(carriers as supposed to automatically provide you with this letter when your coverage with them terminated for any reason). I can’t remember the time frame, but I think it is 60 days from termination or loss of one coverage until you are again covered.
    The second thing is to look at the policy you are now covered by and read the exclusion section regarding pre-existing conditions. Most policies have a 12 month period, however some are only six months, while others can be up to 18 months. Once this window is past, they must cover the pre-existing condition.
    Lastly, did you wife’s coverage have an “open enrollment” period during which you were placed on her policy? If so, I don’t think they can use the pre-existing exclusion as it is typically waived during open enrollments.
    Remember the “Rainmaker” book/movie. Insurance companies first line of defense is to deny claims. Ofter, after 2-3 denials, the patient gives up and they win. Call you state insurance commissioner and ask for some help.
    Good luck,
    Fred

    June 5, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Hi Linda and Flossie,

    As you can tell, I am tardy in responding to your posts. Sorry about that.
    I was dx’d in ’96, so I’ve been messing with this for a long time also. Coming after a sever case of GBS in ’85, I was prepared for what was ahead and made the decision I would not give in to this demond.

    Fortunately, I had a neuro that was willing to work with me on a variety of treatments, some recognized for CIDP, others not and thus experimental. Like most CIDP’ers, response varied with each treatment, so my goal was to find some combination that would slow or stop the progression. Prednisone, IV and oral was helpful, but after about 3 years he took me off oral for fear of kidney damage. Iv prednisone has been used off and on since about 2004 and I have had no lasting side effects thus far. Steroids do boost my energy levels.

    You read so many different stories regarding responses to different medications, some great, some not. Guess I was just lucky that my neuro reluctantly agreed to brand specific IVIG (Gamunex) in December and that I have responded favorably to this change, even though I never had any success with other IVIG products. I am not sure if it is just the Gamunex or if it is the combination of having Plasma exchange and IV solumedrol(500mg) the day before the IVIG that is doing the trick. We’ll find out in September when he stops the PE and tries to maintain me on just the Gamunex.

    The only thing I can say for sure is that I am a “new” person compared to who I was in December. I very seldom use my electric scooter, can actually walk up stairs again, do yard work, drive for several hours at a time, etc. All things I could not do just five months ago. So keep searching to find what works for you. Ask you doctor about combinations of treatments if a singular treatment isn’t getting the job done for you. Never, never give up because you don’t know when you will find the treatment that does it for you. It took nearly 14 years for me to hit on this combination, so there is always hope.

    Good luck to you guys and stay after it.

    May 28, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Hi Kelly,
    My GBS came after the swine flu vaccine in the 70’s. I took a “booster” tetnus shot 10 years ago while my cidp( dx’d in ’96) was “stable” and had no side effects. However, I had to sign a written waiver which stated that GBS could result from the shot and I would hold them harmless. At last weeks annual check-up, my internist wanted me to take another tetnus booster. I told him I would defer to my neuro, but am having second thoughts about the potential side effects. Like many, I now think I would rather take my chances. Good luck.
    Fred