Who will be the next President

I hope McCain, I worry about any form of “socialized” medicine. Some on the sight from Canada and across the pond seem dissatisfied with what they get with their “Universal” medical care. If you think about it, medicare/aid is socialized, or universal medical care, and it is so hard to get ivig for some. As parents we pay $20,000 a year in health insurance, and that sucks, but I know we can get ivig. I worry about when Kevie is older and if he does not have a job that pays enough to allow him to pay
the astronomical price for insurance. I worry if cidp will change its course on Kevie and not allow him to work at all after I am gone and all of the money we will leave him is gone. If he is a medicaid or universal insurance recipient, I worry he will be denied ivig. I know this is selfish, but I really do not even care about the rest of the issues. I feel that any pupet in the pulpit will do whatever is already pretty much predetermined. Regardless of who the name is. I read this very interesting book on secret societies that date back to our founding fathers, it is kind of scary if it is true.
I am a conservative, but if Obama was elected, it would be better than Hillary and would probably offer the best opportunity to break the cycles of the secret societies. There is no doubt this country needs change, so whomever is elected, I hope God gives them the stregnth to get us out of this hole.
I hope I have not offended anyone.
Dawn

This thread is becoming very interesting. McCain and Obama running neck and neck. Mrs C isn’t even on the radar. Of course not many people have voted yet. I hope more vote in the actual election

Yes, this thread is very interesting. And, Dawn, you wrote an excellent post…….inre. to “socialized medical care”. I used to think that would be good, but to think more about it, it would be a nightmare and so very scary to think that the government would decide who gets what and when and how!!! I had the best doctors that SAVED MY LIFE!!!!!!! What would it be like if that would have been “socialized”?????????????? I dread to even think of it. I would hope that America will wake up and see the “light”.
God bless you all…………….

Per

It is interesting, that I do not see a clear choice. Except I would not vote for McCain to do a third term following in Bush’s footsteps.

It is amazing how polarized the congress and politics in general have become. If an idea comes from one party the others will not support it. It is time for us to become Americans Vs R’s, D’s or one of many other options.

Hey…this is cool. Its the first time I’ve been able to vote for a US president. But, it takes up about 75% of all the news we get in Canada so why shouldn’t we vote!! 😀
Andrew

Last night the debate was decisive for me. Obama will receive my vote to receive the nomination for the Democrats. Clinton is just too negative.

I am not saying any of these three deserve my vote, but i think each candidate is uniquely unqualified in their own way.

John McCain is unqualified because he is just too old. He didn’t study history. He is history. I can’t imagine how he could possibly relate to other world leaders who are two or three decades younger than he is. Will he make them guess which pocket he hid the gum? Being president requires a certain amount of youth which will soon get sucked out of you.

Barak Obama is unqualified because he tried to impress everyone about how he can relate to the common man by going bowling. Thats fine with me and it is a sensible strategy. Sensible unless of course you roll a 37. He averaged hitting just 1.85 pins per roll of the ball. Couldn’t he have rented a bowling alley for a few days and learned the game before going public? If he shows so little attention to detail, then how in the world is he going to run an entire nation? The answer is, he isn’t.

Hillary Clinton is unqualified to be president because she lacks any skill or art when she lies. I’m not saying she doesn’t lie, she clearly does. She just doesn’t lie artfully. Getting caught in a whopper that gains you nothing even if it is believed just shows a complete lack of respect for a good lie. All politicians at some time or another need to tell a good lie in order to be effective. Hillary obviously has lied way too often and the value of her lies has suffered so she lacks one important skill all politicians need.

Interesting comments Lee. So who will be left for you in the up comming election. Ron Paul is the only one with even a remote chanace of becomming President. In my case I consider his chance so remote it is like voting for myself. It could sent a louder message to vote for none of the above!

Remember the phrase anything is possible but only some things are probable.

I think it is possible that Clinton could still win the Democratic nomination but not very probable. At this point something could happen to any of the three, McCain, Clinton or Obama, that would take them out of the race. However, it is probable that Obama and McCain will be facing one another in the fall.

Now we have to decide do we want 4 more years of George Bush in McCain or a change from the past 8 years and hopefully get the bill of rights put back together.

Where is this going? It is up to us acording to what has been said so far here McCain is the choice. Why?

I have found that when I ask people who are voting for Hillary, why they like her – I get the same answer – She has experience.” But they know nothing. They have no idea about the issues. Winston Churchill said, “The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.” I think this is why the average blue collar voter votes for her. Name recognition. People who read books and can discuss the issues are voting for Obama. John McCain is too old for this stressful job. JUst look at the mistakes he has made discussing the issues. Those of us on this site know what it is like to have our minds and bodies affected by illness and time. Those people who say age is irrelevant are young and have not experienced the body declining. Plus his body was damaged after those years in a concentration camp.
I read a book about the VA and how they turned into a well-oiled machine in the last few years. My friends in several states who go to their VA are generally pleased. Socialized medicine can me good IF it is run correctly. The VA uses computers for patient’s records and alerts doctors when the same test has been run, and catches mistakes before they happen. It really impressed me – and it was not written by the VA.

Hi Carolyn,
This topic is so alarming. Honestly, none of them are qualified. I wish Governor Schwarzeneggar would run for President, I think he has done an amazing job in California, from an economic standpoint, immigration issues (working on them) schools, etc.

I think that VA hospitals vary from hospital to hospital. We have a family member who is the head nurse on a ward and the info she describes is frightenning, the lack of money and the cuts affect our veterans to degrees we cannot even imagine. The stories of not long ago from Walter Reid were ghastly, so I fear that if the gov. cannot control a small (compared to every hospital in the nation) amount of VA hospitals, there is no way they could master a socialized medicine program. I wonder if Kevin would be able to get ivig every month, or you or anyone on the site. I pray every night that God will take this away from Kevin and everyone here, or at least grant them ivig as long as they need. I fear any form of socialized medicine will jeopordize ivig treatment!

In the end I will vote for McCain by default, the lesser of the evils. We need to have a better plan on paper before we can implement change. Talk is cheap and dangerous. I don’t care if it is a republican or democrat that comes up with a plan, but someone needs to start executing a tangible one before we elect someone whose podium is based on change with no concrete plan. We need help, soon!!! We just need to find the right person, and at this moment, we are lost!

Carolyn,
As a combat veteran of Viet Nam and Desert Storm, I hate to say it but the VA doesn’t always live up to the picture you have painted. Shortfalls in staffing and funding [thanks to [B][U]our elected [/U][/B]members of legislative branch-The House and the Senate] leave a lot of vets out in the cold.

The USA has the tendency to forget our vets when they have returned from a war. However, I will say that my experience with the VA has been very positive. Areas where there is a large number of vets seem to have more problems than areas where there is a smaller number of vets.

Dawn Kevies mom, Just 40 percent of Californians think Schwarzenegger is doing a good job and half say he’s faring poorly, according to the non-partisan survey by the Public Policy Institute of California which puts Governor’s ratings down to Gray Davis Levels. Hum!

I think the biggest issue in this presidential campaign is Universal Health Care. Universal Health care is scary for a number of reasons. As P.J. O’Rourke said, “If you think health care is expensive now, just wait till it’s free.” I think what he meant by that is health care plus a bloated government bureaucracy will cost more than just health care. That seems like indisputable logic to me.

And honestly, do you really think the government can do much of anything well? Go take a look at those slack jawed dullards at the Department of Motor Vehicles. Do you really think these people were born that way? No, the got ground down to those hollow shells that you see before you by years of working for a huge bellicose government machine. What makes you think the same thing won’t happen to health care professionals? Those poor slobs at DMV can’t take any initiative without running it through the red tape machine. Do you want doctors hamstrung by an administration that is worse than the current one?

Finally, Universal Health care is bad because rationing of expensive medicines is an absolute necessity. My wife, Colleen, has one of the nastier forms of breast cancer (HER2 Neu +++). Her chances of survival are less than 30% unless she gets one of two types of medicine, either Tykreb or Herceptin. Both medicines are outrageously expensive, costing between $85,000 and $125,000. She will be getting Herceptin at no cost to us on our private health insurance system. In the UK, people are eligible for Herceptin on a lottery basis. So dumb luck is a basis of medical decisions? Nice. In France and Cuba Herceptin and Tykreb are unavailable. In New Zealand, there is currently a political fight going on to make Herceptin available. So with Universal Health Care, Colleen’s chances of survival are less than 30%, and in our current system her chances of survival are 84%. Would you be willing to take those odds with your loved ones?

Since McCain is the only candidate not pushing for health care run by a bloated federal bureaucracy, then he gets my vote.

Well……until he does something real stupid, then I’m willing to reconsider.

Mediocrity beats mediocrity and socialism any day.

I know what you mean about the government running things poorly. My friend had good VA experiences in St. Petersburg and Tampa, Fl and Clarksville/Nashville Tenn. but that does not mean it is like that elsewhere. Something has to be done because there are too many people without health insurance and people who lose everything due to high medical bills. I personally am not impressed with the AMA and the high use of pharmaceuticals and surgeries. We need a new way of thinking about our bodies. But I am the eternal optomist that thinks it is possible to turn our government around. McCain will just be four more years of a Bush-like government. I cannot morally vote for someone like that. I read The Bush Tragedy which explained the family dynamics between Bush 41 and Bush 43. I needed to know why our president made the decisions he did. Although he wanted to make his father proud of him, he did not want to be like his father – thoughtful, meticulous, getting opinions of others. McCain is not like 43, but he is aligning himself with him – even now.

Lee,

Wasn’t there a movie awhile back with Richard Pryor about voting for “None of the Above”? Yeah that’s how I feel. Though at this point Obama has my vote.

Jerimy

Each of the following statements represent the introduction to the Canidates health care plan. Which would you pick and why?

John McCain Believes The Key To Health Care Reform Is To Restore Control To The Patients Themselves. We want a system of health care in which everyone can afford and acquire the treatment and preventative care they need. Health care should be available to all and not limited by where you work or how much you make. Families should be in charge of their health care dollars and have more control over care.

— Barack Obama, Speech in Iowa City, IA, May 29, 2007
Plan for a Healthy America
“We now face an opportunity — and an obligation — to turn the page on the failed politics of yesterday’s health care debates… My plan begins by covering every American. If you already have health insurance, the only thing that will change for you under this plan is the amount of money you will spend on premiums. That will be less. If you are one of the 45 million Americans who don’t have health insurance, you will have it after this plan becomes law. No one will be turned away because of a preexisting condition or illness.”

Hillary’s American Health Choices Plan covers all Americans and improves health care by lowering costs and improving quality. It speaks to American values, American families, and American jobs.

It puts the consumer in the driver’s seat by offering more choices and lowering costs. If you’re one of the tens of million Americans without coverage or if you don’t like the coverage you have, you will have a choice of plans to pick from and that coverage will be affordable. Of course, if you like the plan you have, you can keep it.

Hillary’s American Health Choices Plan

Affordable: Unlike the current health system where insurance premiums send people into bankruptcy, the plan provides tax credits for working families to help them cover their costs. The tax credits will ensure that working families never have to pay more than a limited percentage of their income for health care.

Available: No discrimination. The insurance companies can’t deny you coverage if you have a pre-existing condition.

Reliable: It’s portable. If you change or lose your job, you keep your health care.

The primary elections are all most over and it looks more each day that Obama and McCain will be the Candidates in the fall. Each will bring to the debate very different ideas. McCain with a continuation of the failed Bush policies and the Obama with a message of Hope and representation of the people rather than Big money special interest groups.

I’m for Ron Paul…….. he’s supports the use of medicinal marijuana!!!