New member — IVIG question
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AnonymousJuly 27, 2006 at 5:00 pm
Hi everyone,
Started having symptoms (fingers and toes tingling, numbness in face) this past Saturday and headed to the hospital on Tuesday. I rarely go to doctors but after an attempt at a jog I knew something was wrong. Went through the battery of tests and a neurologist confirmed GBS. However, he decided Wednesday that since I am still ambulatory (although walking is slowly getting a little tougher), fit and not showing any breathing difficulties that I go home under the care of my wife (a nurse). He recommended against IVIG unless I start showing more severe problems walking or problems with breathing, claiming to have concerns about side effects.Wondering if anybody has advice on this course of action, in particular the use of IVIG.
Have never experienced any major illness before and this is frankly rather frightening to me. Always been very fit (was an All-America distance runner years ago) and wondering too if that has any effect on the course. Many thanks and best to everybody else out there.
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AnonymousJuly 27, 2006 at 5:22 pm
Welcome, glad to hear that you got a quick diagnosis. I am sort of confused about why he would send you home with no treatment of any kind. Does he think the attack on your nerves has stopped?? Seems to me like the attack will continue until you get either IVIG or Plasma Pheresis or both.
Jerimy
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AnonymousJuly 27, 2006 at 6:23 pm
Thanks for the note Jerimy. Yeah, I guess I’m sort of confused too– my doctor friends (none neurologists) all thought IVIG would be the course of action. Is it not normal to be discharged if the symptoms are limited to fingers, toes, legs, face? What percentage of patients with these symptoms typically receive IVIG?
Just received a call from the neurologist and he’s going to check in again in the morning and likely start outpatient IVIG.
I’ve done a lot of things in my life that would be considered scary (e.g., hanging off the side of mountains) but never been scared like this. Think it’s not knowing how far GBS will progress. Also a feeling of helplessness that I’m not accustomed to. Thanks.
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AnonymousJuly 27, 2006 at 11:09 pm
Your very welcome. We all do our best to help. I can’t say for sure if it is normal to be discharged before IVIG, I had a rapid progression so it wasn’t an issue. Sometimes they will try plasmapheresis before trying IVIG, both are used to treat GBS/CIDP though. I am not sure what the percentage is of people that get IVIG but I would guess pretty high.
Good luck with your IVIG infusion, they aren’t bad at all, take benadryl and tylenol before the infusion to help the side effects. Also I try and drink alot of water before. Take something to read or do, it’s a long and boring process.
Let us know how it goes for you. Good luck today.
Jerimy
[quote=horse]Thanks for the note Jerimy. Yeah, I guess I’m sort of confused too– my doctor friends (none neurologists) all thought IVIG would be the course of action. Is it not normal to be discharged if the symptoms are limited to fingers, toes, legs, face? What percentage of patients with these symptoms typically receive IVIG?
Just received a call from the neurologist and he’s going to check in again in the morning and likely start outpatient IVIG.
I’ve done a lot of things in my life that would be considered scary (e.g., hanging off the side of mountains) but never been scared like this. Think it’s not knowing how far GBS will progress. Also a feeling of helplessness that I’m not accustomed to. Thanks.[/quote]
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AnonymousJuly 28, 2006 at 2:16 am
Hai…….welcome to the world of caring people………pls go to the neurologist immediatly, the pains which come , if u r not taking the ivig will be more, i pray to god that these pains should not come to anybody. And dont go home..it is much better to stay in the hospital if ur wife is a nurse also………after the corse of ivig u may require PT which will help to do ur normal works….dont be afraid……..be postive……..and confidant …….with ur will power. Bye take care…………
Sridar
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AnonymousJuly 28, 2006 at 10:33 am
horse,
I did not receive either IVIG or PE, the neuro felt that my age (20) at the time was working in my for me, I was quite healthy as well. But, I was hospitalized during the time so he could keep an eye on my progress.
I do agree with the others about pushing the dr for the treatment though, I have read here on the forums about how IVIG has helped those it was given to.
I believe the fear is a natural reaction, probably because of the reason you stated, having no control over the situation can be a frightening thing. Just keep a positive attitude, keep your faith, and just fight.
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AnonymousAugust 2, 2006 at 8:18 pm
Just back from the hospital after 5 days of IVIG. Feeling pretty tired and beat up but it seems like the slide has stopped. At this point, the problems are limited to feet, legs, hands and face. Perhaps a micron closer to being able to form a smile today but maybe my imagination (right now, not being able to move my mouth into a smile is the hardest part– 2 young kids who are used to seeing daddy smile at them). Looking forward to some rest and then tackling the PT/ST.
I very much appreciate all the kindness and good thoughts of friends, family and strangers. It’s been so appreciated and helpful. I hope as I get feeling a little better and as I fight to get back to work and the life that I want that I can provide a fraction of the support that I’ve received here and from others. Best,
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AnonymousFebruary 14, 2007 at 12:47 am
It’s my understanding that the sooner you use ivig or plasmaphoresis the faster response rates and the residual deficits. IVIG is real low risk . They clean and filter the virus out 1st. Best to premedicate with benedryl and some us prednisone10 mg(controversal)also. If asked to take a chance again I would answer the same–Absotulety YES for the ivig. It started the revearsal within 48 hours and it kept me off the vent. Dr.Shawn
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AnonymousFebruary 15, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Hey there. I was recently diagnosed with GBS as well, with similar symptoms as you (still walking, but numb feet and hands). My neurologist actually strongly recommended starting IV-IG treatment immediately in an attempt to halt the progression of the disease. I agreed, and was hospitalized for 5 days during treatment. Worst side effect I had was a bad headache and some nausea. I am glad I elected to start IV-IG, as to have stopped the progression of the disease (or at least its symptoms) just above my knees.
The main reason for me agreeing to undergo treatment immediately was that the side effects of the treatment seemed to be a lot less severe than the effects of the disease if left untreated. -
AnonymousMarch 17, 2007 at 2:01 pm
My hands are getting weak very cold or hot they hurt and shake no matter what i do little or alot Right hand is worse i am very tired so iam takeing sentrum vit helps with energy iam trying to keep up with aur home busy busy busy i do alittle and then get on the couch a little my body hates me lol its hard to sit very long 10 min or longer it hurts eather way i go i hurt every wher its like i am a solid bruse it hurts alot to be bumped Thanks God bless
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AnonymousMarch 17, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Tamara,
There could be a number of reasons for all these symptoms or residuals. Obviously the best thing would be to go to a doctor or neurologist, maybe the one who treated you when you had GBS if you were happy and comfortable with them.
Some [I]possible[/I] reasons for the way you are feeling …… Firstly, it is possible to be going through a flare-up of residuals. Often this happens when we have been under some stress or overdoing things. Many go through this and do worry that they are having another GBS attack. There is a very slight possibility of having a reoccurance of GBS, in which case the IVIg you were inquiring about would help, but only in the initial 4 weeks while your body is under attack. And another possibility would be the possibility of having CIDP, but I dont want to even touch on that until you have been to the doctor and discussed all possibilities.
If fatigue and pain are residual problems from your GBS, there are medications that can be prescribed by your doctors that would be able to help you deal with those problems. IVIG however, is not an option if you are dealing with residuals, as IVIg only helps (as I said earlier) in the initial weeks of the GBS attack.
Sooooo, long story short, this is something that is effecting you and obviously is worrying you. The best would be to go to a doctor/neurologist and explian, in GREAT detail your symptoms and concerns. There are so many things that ‘could be’, unfortnately there is no definative answer.
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AnonymousMarch 17, 2007 at 10:08 pm
tamara,
ditto ali. most likely you need much, much more rest lying down. also neurontin for the pain. many of us take neurontin [gabapentin], a non-narcotic, for peripheral neurological pain. neurontin is specific, it can work even when ordinary pain killers do not, even the opiates like methadone. great success w many. v safe. start at 300 mg 3X/day [900 total] & increase by 300 every other day till pain stops. taking it 6X/day instead of 3X/day gets more bang for the buck. 3600 is theoretical max/day that your body can absorb. 5600 is practical absorption max/day. the only reason for the slo build up is it may make you sleepy till your body gets used to it. take care. be well.
gene gbs 8-99
in numbers there is strength
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