new to forum spouse has CIDP

    • Anonymous
      June 16, 2008 at 12:44 am

      I am new to this forum. My husband has been diagnosed with CIDP for 3 years now. He had a stroke 7 years ago but they did a cat scan and nothing showed anything but a mild mini stroke. Our new family doctor sent my husband to a neurologist and he was the one that diagonosed the CIDP. He said when they thought he had a minor stroke it was the CIDP starting. He started out on a walking stick to crutches and now he has been in a wheelchair for over a year now. He has the trembling hands the drop feet. How bad does this syndrome get. I read somewhere that there is only a small window of opportunity to slow it down and I think we missed it when they thought he had a stroke. Our Dr. at the time sent him to sleep clinic and though it was sleep apnea. We have done the plasmosis and the immuniglobin therapy nothing is working. The neurologist was the one that prescribed those treatments. We have done the cellcept also. Nothing is working. My husband just keeps getting worse. I would appreciate any input. Thanks

    • Anonymous
      June 16, 2008 at 3:16 am

      The small window you are talking about is really more about GBS – the acute cousin of CIDP – there does seem to be a small window there to minimize damage but since CIDP is chronic repeated treatments are needed. Is your husband getting any kind of treatment for the CIDP? It is a shame that you went so long without treatment but I don’t think it’s ever too late to try to stop the progress. Perhaps you could ask for a couple of months of IVIg to see if that slows down the progress, or at the very least try him on some steroids to see if that helps. The idea is you have to stop the attacks to give your nerves time to heal so if you can stop the attacks even after seven years the nerves may be able to regenerate even after all this time. Its certainly worth a try. 😀

      This is a great place to come with questions – everyone is very helpful and understanding and tell your husband we sympathize!!!

      Julie

    • Anonymous
      June 16, 2008 at 3:26 am

      Hi, Cookie.

      Don’t lose hope. I’ve seen some really tough cases of CIDP that responded to treatment once the right treatment was found. Our recently departed friend DocDavid was one of them: he had been a long time wheelchair user when his doctor tried him on Rituxamab. After a few months he was able to walk his daughter down the aisle.

      The first line treatments are IVIg and plasmapherisis, which you indicate he’s already tried. As Julie says, corticosteroids are also among the first treatments normally tried. If those don’t work, you can try things like methotrexate and azathioprine, and then some of the anti-rejection (Cellcept is one of those) and cancer drugs. Your husband will feel like a guinea pig, since finding the right treatment is often by trial and error, but it’s very rare for nothing to work.

      Best wishes in the battle,

      Deb
      London

    • Anonymous
      June 16, 2008 at 10:47 pm

      After nearly two years of doctors not agreeing on what was happening with my mother in law, a second opinion neurologist says that he strongly feels that she has a form of GBS…. however because this has come on very gradually, I think it may be CIDP in any event, what are the options for treatment given the lengthy period of time that a diagnosis was lacking? everything i read about IVIG and plasmapheresis seems to indicate that if it isnt done in the first couple of weeks, it won’t do any good.
      we are getting her to a specialist in Dallas as soon as we can but the uncertainty is difficult for all

    • June 16, 2008 at 11:12 pm

      If it IS CIDP and not GBS, ivig will still help. A few loading doses usually are given. Just from experiences on the site, it seems as those on a few loADING DOSES AND THEN MOVING TO MAINT. DOSES DO WELL. The demhylienation is stopped and then healing begins. If you do not get enough ivig the demylienation cannot stop. It is not too late, I even wonder if my son started slowly a year before his near paralysis which peaked at three weeks. We did ivig and it was our miracle. Good luck!
      Dawn Kevies mom

    • Anonymous
      June 16, 2008 at 11:48 pm

      Thanks everyone for your input. My husband has always been so active . He worked in the yard coached little league it is really hard for him to accept his handicapp. He is still working . He says he has to or he would go crazy. His job has made the building very accesible for him. I have told him about this website but he has not looked at it yet. I have been reading on the website since December. I just now wanted to join. I have learned a lot just from browsing.

    • Anonymous
      June 17, 2008 at 3:47 am

      Hi Cookie,
      Welcome I did the Chemo and all the Rest been on Cellcept for about a year and now I am Learning to walk again 3 years in this rotten Wheelchair is enough. It took about 6 Months for the Cellcept to do it’s Stuff. I do hope your Husband all the best. And to you also Cookie
      Regards
      Sainter

    • Anonymous
      June 17, 2008 at 7:47 am

      I think he may have been impatient waiting for the cellcept to work. He only tried it for a couple of months. The plasmosis and immunoglobin thereapy he did each for a week everyday. He said he did not feel any improvement.

    • Anonymous
      June 17, 2008 at 10:20 am

      Dawn

      thanks for you thoughts. she went to her arthritis doc yesterday and the doc told her that she had mixed connective tissue disorder…. but in my mind that doesnt account for the inability to walk. so we shall see.

    • Anonymous
      June 17, 2008 at 10:56 am

      Cookiegirl –

      Your husband needs more than just a week of IVIG or plasmapheresis. I don’t have any personal experience with plasmapheresis but I know a whole lot about IVIG. My daughter has received more IVIG, for her weight, than anyone else I know & it’s worked wonders for her (KNOCK ON WOOD!).

      With IVIG he needs a loading dose of 2 grams per kilogram of his weight. He needs to take that amount every day for 4-5 days in a row. Then, since he’s been without treatment for so long, I personally would ask for him to get the same amount of grams of IVIG once a week (for 1 day). His blood should be drawn every month to make sure he is handling such a high dosage. I would also suggest that he use a brand of IVIG that is not sucrose based as it can cause problems with kidneys.

      What tests were done to diagnose him with CIDP? Did he have an MRI of his brain & spine, a spinal tap to check protein levels and an EMG?

      Good luck,
      Kelly

    • Anonymous
      June 17, 2008 at 1:36 pm

      They did both the MRI and the spinal tap. The week that he did the treatments it was all day long every day. I agree he needs to keep doing them. The neurologist sent him to Southwest medical centre in Dallas. It is a research hospital and they did not want to try any treatments until his diabetes is under control. He is just so frustrated he has lost all faith in Drs. His neurologist said we may have to keep an IV in him all the time so they can do the treatments all the time. He does not like that idea. It is hard for me to push him because I do not have CIDP. My husband is onw of these men that do not like going to the drs. when they are sick. I will tell him what I have read on the forum and many we can get him to start the treatments again.

    • Anonymous
      June 17, 2008 at 1:38 pm

      They did both the MRI and the spinal tap. The week that he did the treatments it was all day long every day. I agree he needs to keep doing them. The neurologist sent him to Southwest medical centre in Dallas. It is a research hospital and they did not want to try any treatments until his diabetes is under control. He is just so frustrated he has lost all faith in Drs. His neurologist said we may have to keep an IV in him all the time so they can do the treatments all the time. He does not like that idea. It is hard for me to push him because I do not have CIDP. My husband is one of these men that do not like going to the drs. when they are sick. I will tell him what I have read on the forum and many we can get him to start the treatments again.

    • Anonymous
      June 17, 2008 at 1:41 pm

      Sorry about the double posting. The computer was running slow and I did not realize it had posted.

    • Anonymous
      June 17, 2008 at 2:08 pm

      I’ve never heard of waiting to treat CIDP because of another illness. With CIDP waiting is probably the worst thing you can do. It’s important to start the treatment ASAP. If they are worried about his blood sugar then they need to use an IVIG that is NOT sucrose based and monitor him closely.

      I’m not really sure what the dr’s were talking about when they said they would leave a needle in all the time. I know there are PICC lines but those are only good for short term use & tend to become infected. Tell your husband that he can get a port put in his chest to get his treatments. My 6 year old daughter has one & it’s been a lifesaver. When she was getting loading doses all the time & getting treatments 2-3 times a week, we would leave her port accessed & she could go on about her normal life, even going to school. We have a home care company come to our home for her treatments. That makes a HUGE difference as well.

      I know it’s frustrating to deal with someone with CIDP. Believe me, I’ve been through the wringer & back again with my daughter. Hopefully you’ll be able to get your husband on track with taking care of himself.

      Kelly

    • Anonymous
      June 19, 2008 at 6:29 pm

      [QUOTE=Emily’s_mom]I’ve never heard of waiting to treat CIDP because of another illness. With CIDP waiting is probably the worst thing you can do. It’s important to start the treatment ASAP. If they are worried about his blood sugar then they need to use an IVIG that is NOT sucrose based and monitor him closely.

      I’m not really sure what the dr’s were talking about when they said they would leave a needle in all the time. I know there are PICC lines but those are only good for short term use & tend to become infected. Tell your husband that he can get a port put in his chest to get his treatments. My 6 year old daughter has one & it’s been a lifesaver. When she was getting loading doses all the time & getting treatments 2-3 times a week, we would leave her port accessed & she could go on about her normal life, even going to school. We have a home care company come to our home for her treatments. That makes a HUGE difference as well.

      I know it’s frustrating to deal with someone with CIDP. Believe me, I’ve been through the wringer & back again with my daughter. Hopefully you’ll be able to get your husband on track with taking care of himself.

      Kelly[/QUOTE] My husband agreed. He went there to treat his cidp and they just want to treat his diabetes. He plans on not going back to ut Southwestern for that reason. They assigned him an internal medicine dr. which we did not need he has one. Our internal medicine dr. said they are a research clinic.

    • Anonymous
      June 21, 2008 at 8:39 am

      cg,

      It seems strange to me that they would allow CIDP to progress while getting his diabetes under control. While they are waiting their is damage being done to the myelin coating and possibly to the nerves themselves. Myelin damage alone repairs slowly, nerve damage even more slowly. Get another opinion if needed, I know that I have read somewhere of an IVIG that is made that can be used for diabetics because it doesn’t contain sucrose, maybe that would help. Lastly there are drugs such as Rituxan et. al and Prednisone has helped me also. Take care and good luck.

      Jerimy

    • Anonymous
      June 22, 2008 at 9:31 am

      [QUOTE=Jerimy]cg,

      It seems strange to me that they would allow CIDP to progress while getting his diabetes under control. While they are waiting their is damage being done to the myelin coating and possibly to the nerves themselves. Myelin damage alone repairs slowly, nerve damage even more slowly. Get another opinion if needed, I know that I have read somewhere of an IVIG that is made that can be used for diabetics because it doesn’t contain sucrose, maybe that would help. Lastly there are drugs such as Rituxan et. al and Prednisone has helped me also. Take care and good luck.

      Jerimy[/QUOTE] Thank you so much. You can see why my husband is so frustrated. Ut southwest is suppose to be the best research clinic in north Texas. We just do not know where else to turn. We have used 2 differant neurologists only because one of them did not use our insurance. Both Dr.s agreed he has cidp.They have not put him on the Rituxan or Prednisone. I told my husband that someone suggested he did not use the cellcept long enough. He did not want to do anymore of IVIG because he did not feel any differant. Is there any govermant research going on about this syndrome. I have read that they do not know what causes it is why it is called a syndrome.

    • Anonymous
      June 22, 2008 at 6:19 pm

      I think that they use the term syndrome to describe a collection of symptoms that together characterize or indicate a disease. As far as a cause, there are many things that they suspect have led to cases of GBS/CIDP such as immunizations, camplobactor bacteria among others.

      As far as his treatment, I would just hope that they move forward with doing something, letting it go for even a short amount of time can just lead to further damage. Get another opinion if needed and arm yourself with as much knowledge as you can about this disease and it’s treatments. Ask the Doctors lots of questions until you are comfortable with his treatment plan, rehab. etc.

      Take care, you, your husband and family are in my prayers.

      Jerimy

    • Anonymous
      June 23, 2008 at 2:22 am

      Thank you so much for your kind words. You are absolutely correct that we need to ask questions. I do not like watching my husband deteriorating everyday. Five years ago he walked our daughter down the aisle and now he is in a wheelchair. His pain is very real. He has to take tramadol, hydrocodone and gabapentin which is the generic of neurotonin just to be able to cope. I do not think I could handle it if it were me. I have got to get him back to the neurologist so we can discuss some other options.