Time to Blow Up the World and Start Over Again

    • Anonymous
      June 5, 2006 at 6:28 pm

      Dear Friends:

      Court is in session once again in the trail Humans Vs. Everything else. The purpose of this trial is to determine whether humans are really worth all the bother. All individuals may file Amicus Curiae briefs in favor of the defendents (Humans) or the plaintiff (Everything Else).

      The plaintiff’s would like to introduce into evidence item no. 45. A news item concerning the upcoming primary elections. It seems several groups are suing eight of the eleven state election commissions which are holding primary elections next week. What is the problem? Well, I’ll tell you. It seems that the new electronic voting machines are not 100% hack-proof and tamper resistant. They also do not leave a paper trail. After it was revealed in the 2000 presidential elections that George Bush was better suited to be president because he was more competent at stealing elections than …….., whoever that dull guy the Democrats nominated, we learned that some people claimed they were too stupid to vote. Remarkably, they made these claims in front of national news cameras. In order to cater to the lowest common denominator, calls were made to simplify voting. Apparently poking a piece of paper with a stick is too sophisticated for many Americans. This brought a call for voting reform and for electronic voting machines. The truly wierd part is that the very same people who claimed paper ballots were too complicated in 2000 and must be replaced by electronics are the exact same people suing to prevent the use of electronic voting machines.

      Dear God, please save these people from themselves. Don’t let them drive, breed, create fire, or own firearms.

    • Anonymous
      June 5, 2006 at 7:57 pm

      Lee,

      This is the perfect place for my new favorite quote:

      “The problem with America is stupidity. I’m not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don’t we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?”

      I forget who said it.

      Jerimy

    • Anonymous
      June 5, 2006 at 8:05 pm

      Amen Lee. Holy Crapola, are these people on the bottom of the food chain?

      I say take these “[B]stupid people”[/B] and blow them up in some remote area of the world or Ali and I will take them aboard the boat and dump them in the shark infested waters with pork chops hanging off their necks.

    • Anonymous
      June 5, 2006 at 9:32 pm

      Dear Jerimy:

      Speaking of self-correcting problems, in Geary County Kansas, the Posse Comitatus and the Ku Kux Klan got into a feud over who was the master race. (If these guys are the master race, I would really hate to see the qualifying heats.) The feud ended up being a shooting war and several people were killed. (I like to think of this as thinning the herd.) The Geary County sherriff was asked what he planned to do about it. His reply was, “DO? Are you kidding me? I’m going to give them shooting lessons and arrest the last one standing.”

      This sensible grasp of the reality of the situation ruffled a few feathers and there were calls from people with big brains to recall the sherriff and replace him with someone a bit more civilized. When the sherriff came up for re-election a year later, he won with over 95% of the vote.

      Lee

    • Anonymous
      June 5, 2006 at 9:42 pm

      I guess the voters agreed ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Anonymous
      June 5, 2006 at 10:11 pm

      Hi,

      Who’s the stupid ones now? Thank god we got Venesuala and that solid bunch down there to count the votes from those electonic machines for us. Hate to see a U.S. company have to do it. Might as well sub-out our democracy too.

    • June 6, 2006 at 9:13 am

      Oh, Lee, this is not a fair trial!!
      We had a Klan problem a few years back…seemed they wanted to march in Cicero which is prodominately a minority town. Since they could not legally be told not to, they were given the okay. A few days before the march was supposed to happen, rival gangs made it clear to the town that they would be present at the march. Needless to say, the Klan decided against it.

      I would like to submit the case of Mrs. Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City. She purchased a new Winnebago and took it to a football game. After leaving the game, she merged onto the freeway, set her cruise control at 70 mph and went to the back and made herself a sandwich. She soon crashed and overturned the RV and promptly filed a lawsuit stating that the owner’s manual did not explain that cruise control is not the same as an automatic pilot. The jury awarded her 1.75 million dollars and a new motor home.
      I would like to submit not only Mrs. Grazinski but the jury who awarded her this type of settlement as proof of stupidity among the human race.

      [QUOTE]”The problem with America is stupidity. I’m not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don’t we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?” [/QUOTE]

      Jerimy, I love your quote…if only we could…:D

    • Anonymous
      June 6, 2006 at 2:12 pm

      Or….as Frank Loyd Wright said…..”There is nothing more uncommon than common sense”

    • Anonymous
      June 6, 2006 at 3:58 pm

      Its definitely time to Start Peru Over Again!

      Alan Garcia was voted the next president of Peru, for a second time, after a DISASTROUS term from 1985 – 1990. He left his previous term with inflation at 7 000% and accusations of corruption, amongs other things. Ollanta Humala, his opponent, apparently has close ties to Hugo Chavez, and it has been said that Ollanta’s loss is huge blow to president Chavez.
      I believe Peru had a no win situation. Personally, I would have voted Garcia, maybe the lesser of two evils, ANYTHING to say away from Chavez. OOOOOHH I dont know!!!! Thank goodness it wasnt something I had to decide.

    • Anonymous
      June 6, 2006 at 5:27 pm

      [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkorchid]Is this like our “Conspiracy Theory Tuesday” (Which, a-hemmm, it IS, btw!), only under a different format?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

      [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3][COLOR=#9932cc]Oh, and Lee?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

      [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3][COLOR=#9932cc]All hail the chads!!!:D ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜‰ [SIZE=5]NOT!!![/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

    • Anonymous
      June 6, 2006 at 7:55 pm

      Dear Ali:

      Some choice in Peru. I bet the voters hit the polling places with glee. It is pretty sad when the winning campaign slogan is:

      Vote for Garcia. Incompetence and corruption beats incompetence, corruption and socialism any day!

    • Anonymous
      June 6, 2006 at 9:14 pm

      Hi,

      Between those two countries, and everyone heading over to Brazil because of better managed corruption and hourly intrest rates, now I hear Jaun Valdez and his mule retired over there in Columbia. The final straw on the downfall of a continent.

    • June 6, 2006 at 10:10 pm

      Politics are mirrored all over the world. You should see who IL has as choices for a governor…the only main difference is one is male and one is female (we think that is their sexes anyway- they won’t even give an honest answer to that!)

    • Anonymous
      June 7, 2006 at 12:32 pm

      I have one regarding voter Id’s,
      My state issued a large number of voter ID cards(which are not required to vote) because the feds said they were supposed to. They spent over $1,000,000 dollars and they are all having to be redone because the information on them is incorrect. 60,000 were sent to the wrong address and they are asking people to send them back. Which I am certain everyone will. The congress of this country is the biggest bunch of idiots ever assembled in one place in the history of mankind and our state legislature is a close second.
      LEA

    • Anonymous
      June 9, 2006 at 1:46 pm

      Plaitiff’s Exhibit No. 214

      Besides the usual security checks for the World Cup being held in Germany, fans are being searched for concealed banannas. Pretty strange, isn’t it? The reason they search for banannas is that the some soccer fans in Germany and in other parts of Europe throw banannas at African and Black athletes. The inference is that the Africans are apes or monkeys.

      Now correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Germany get into a teensy bit of trouble in the late 1930’s and early 1940’s over that whole master race thing? Don’t get me wrong, I am pleased that the Germans are taking pains to ensure that Banannas aren’t tossed on the playing pitch, but the whole need for the precaution says to me that when God floods the Earth again, the nozzle should be aimed at Germany. Maybe thats a bit unfair. Perhaps it isn’t Germans as a whole, but soccer fans in general. Soccer isn’t a sport so much as an excuse to commit a felony.

    • Anonymous
      June 9, 2006 at 2:59 pm

      Hi,

      Certainly one area where Europe lags behind the U.S. Remember, they never had a civil rights movement over there. They just do banana searches I guess.

    • Anonymous
      June 9, 2006 at 3:36 pm

      I just saw a sports headline which said “Goalies fear new World Cup Balls”.

      And I thought tennis elbow was bad.

    • Anonymous
      June 10, 2006 at 12:07 pm

      Now back to the news from the World Cup.

      Germany defeated Costa Rica in the opening game of the Worls Cup. The bananna chuckers defeated the bananna growers by a score of 4 to 2. This once again proves Doyle’s Axiom of business investing. If given the choice between production and distribution, invest in distribution for better results.

      Lee

    • Anonymous
      June 10, 2006 at 12:11 pm

      [QUOTE=Lee Spurgeon]I just saw a sports headline which said “Goalies fear new World Cup Balls”.

      And I thought tennis elbow was bad.[/QUOTE]

      ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ You made me spit out my coffee at the computer again Lee.

    • Anonymous
      June 10, 2006 at 12:12 pm

      Dear Friends:

      I present to you, the defendants exhibit No. 34.

      Did any of you notice how civilized everyone on this forum is. Not one person, no matter how great the temptation, mentioned the search procedures for a man’s bananna. As a matter of fact, it probably never even crossed your minds. I know I never even thought about it. Way to keep this forum from sinking into the gutter. I am proud of all of you.

      Lee

    • Anonymous
      June 10, 2006 at 12:17 pm

      Actually I did think about it Lee, just being my ladylike self that I am and didn’t want to mention Marc’s banana thingy. I mean Marc’s banana searching sentence. ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

    • Anonymous
      June 11, 2006 at 4:36 pm

      [QUOTE=Lee Spurgeon] Now correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Germany get into a teensy bit of trouble in the late 1930’s and early 1940’s over that whole master race thing?[/QUOTE]
      Sure, I was there. I had to march through my hometown as a 10 year old in my brown Hitler Youth shirt singing “The old bones are trembling. Today we own Germany, and tomorrow the whole world.” I hated the whole charade and was relieved I got out when me, my younger brother and my mother were evacuated in 1944 to the countryside to get us away from the constant horrible bombings. When I asked my parents after the war if they knew about what had been going on they said they didn’t have a clue.
      [QUOTE=Lee Spurgeon] when God floods the Earth again, the nozzle should be aimed at Germany. Maybe thats a bit unfair. Perhaps it isn’t Germans as a whole, but soccer fans in general. Soccer isn’t a sport so much as an excuse to commit a felony.[/QUOTE]
      If you base your selection on how [B][COLOR=”red”]some[/COLOR][/B] fans behave, shouldn’t you also include England as a candidate for the next 40 day flood? Remember that riot years ago – was it in the London stadium? – when fans got wild and a few people (I think) got trampled to death.

    • Anonymous
      June 11, 2006 at 4:47 pm

      [QUOTE=Lee Spurgeon] Now correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Germany get into a teensy bit of trouble in the late 1930’s and early 1940’s over that whole master race thing?[/QUOTE]
      Sure, I was there. I had to march through my hometown as a 10 year old in my brown Hitler Youth shirt singing “The old bones are trembling. Today we own Germany, and tomorrow the whole world.” I hated the whole charade and was relieved I got out when me, my younger brother and my mother were evacuated in 1944 to the countryside. When I asked my parents after the war if they knew about what was going on they said they didn’t have a clue.
      [QUOTE=Lee Spurgeon] when God floods the Earth again, the nozzle should be aimed at Germany. Maybe thats a bit unfair. Perhaps it isn’t Germans as a whole, but soccer fans in general. Soccer isn’t a sport so much as an excuse to commit a felony.[/QUOTE]
      If you base your selection on how [B][COLOR=”red”]some[/COLOR][/B] fans behave, shouldn’t you also include England as a candidate for the next 40 day flood? Remember that riot years ago – was it in the London stadium? – when fans got wild and a few people (I think) got trampled to death.

    • Anonymous
      June 11, 2006 at 10:17 pm

      Dear Norb:

      You do make some valid points. I wil relate a story to you about a racist episode I witnessed. I was eating lunch in a Burger restaraunt in Canby, Oregon one summer afternoon and I ignorant redneck cowboy came in a started shouting racial epithets at a black man who was eating his lunch and minding his own business. I was so angered by what this ignorant man was saying that I felt embarassed for the white race. I got up to commit bodily injury upon the stupid cowboy, who at this time was retreating out the door, when I bumped into several men who were also moving to the ignorant fool with similar intentions as mine. It really suprised me that 4 or 5 men in the restaraunt were so incensed by the cowboy’s hate filled diatribe that they were ready to do battle to protect the honor and dignity of someone we didn’t even know.

      I guess the point of the story is that overt acts of racism don’t occur in a vacuum. They are allowed to occur with the assent of those around them. Yes there are just a few idiots that throw banannas at black athletes, but there was an entire stadium of soccer fans who allowed it to happen. If those few individuals knew the consequences of their actions was social ostracism, they wouldn’t have thrown them.

      In my life I have known several people from Germany and many had told me that after the recent history of Germany, they had to be super-vigilant to ensure that they were on the side of the angels. I guess that is why I was shocked by the whole bananna throwing incident.

      Norb, I am sorry if I offended you by my previous post. I just wanted to use humor to condemn unacceptable behavior so that I am not giving silent assent to an injustice.

      Lee

    • Anonymous
      June 12, 2006 at 4:23 pm

      You didn’t offend me at all, Lee. I just thought I get in on the discussion and offer my 5 cents worth. I agree that acts of racism or other excesses don’t occur in a vaccuum. We often allow it by keeping quiet, sometimes out of fear or other times because of indifference.

      When groups get out of control there is another factor that comes into play, that is group think. Individuals feel less responsible for their actions, the anonymous group takes over responsibility. The individual would never perform the act were he or she alone. By the same token, group think can also apply to opposite situations when people do not take action perhaps in cases similar to your example of the “stupid cowboy” had he not retreated.

      You are perhaps familiar with this:

      Here another aspect that can apply to atrocities based on racism that have been committed in Nazi Germany: obeying m authority performing actions against one’s own moral values. A guy by the name of Stanley Milgram performed now famous experiments at Yale in 1974 which exposed a darker side of human nature. Objects were told to train people in the next room by administering light electric shocks whenever a mistake was made. They could only communicate via microphone and loudspeaker. They were told by an authoritarian acting experimenter in a white coat to keep increasing intensity of the shock. Most obeyed when ordered to do so even though they could hear the moans(fake) from next door. Many times they continued turning the dial to the point where it said “Danger”. What’s scary about this is the fact that these experiments were done with Americans, people like you and me.

      Milgram wrote this:

      [I]”The legal and philosophic aspects of obedience are of enormous import, but they say very little about how most people behave in concrete situations. I set up a simple experiment at Yale University to test how much pain an ordinary citizen would inflict on another person simply because he was ordered to by an experimental scientist. Stark authority was pitted against the subjects’ [participants’] strongest moral imperatives against hurting others, and, with the subjects’ [participants’] ears ringing with the screams of the victims, authority won more often than not. The extreme willingness of adults to go to almost any lengths on the command of an authority constitutes the chief finding of the study and the fact most urgently demanding explanation.”
      [/I]

    • Anonymous
      June 14, 2006 at 1:51 pm

      I don’t have any reason today, but I want to Blow Up The World and start from scratch, just my mood and I’m not on Prednisone this week. Imagine what I would do if I were still on the dreaded Prednisone.:eek: ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    • Anonymous
      June 14, 2006 at 5:55 pm

      sorry you are having a bad time. Here is the best I can do for you: it’s set to go off at 4 a.m. You won’t feel a thing when the world goes poof. Tomorrow when you come to it will be a new world … except some of the old features will still be there so you won’t feel too disoriented. Hope I will be part of [b]your new world[/b]. If not I’d miss your posts terribly. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Anonymous
      June 14, 2006 at 7:43 pm

      Norb,

      Is it possible just to blow up a certain portion of New Jersey instead of the whole world? That would be better I think. I wouldn’t want to harm my friends and family. I’m in a better mood now. Thanks for coming to my assistance.:) ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Anonymous
      June 14, 2006 at 9:15 pm

      Hmmmm, if only it were that simple!:p

    • Anonymous
      June 15, 2006 at 10:03 am

      [QUOTE=Brandy]Norb, Is it possible just to blow up a certain portion of New Jersey instead of the whole world? That would be better I think. I wouldn’t want to harm my friends [/QUOTE]
      Brandy, Do you mean “Northern New Jersey right across from New York City”. That sounds like singling you out. That would be a very bad idea. Your family would never really get over that. Believe me, we know from our own painful experience.

      [url]http://www.bluemarble.de/family/Photo_Gallery/photo_gallery_6.html[/url]

      Maybe next time it would be better to talk about what’s going on because I can’t guarantee the accuracy of my destructive devices.;)

      Glad you are feeling better.

    • Anonymous
      June 17, 2006 at 1:31 pm

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    • Anonymous
      June 17, 2006 at 1:40 pm

      I am absolutely flabbergasted! How on earth could they vote Yea?

    • Anonymous
      June 17, 2006 at 7:07 pm

      Hi Dave,

      You’re right on the money. Not only did my senator(Cantwell) vote for it, but she was the sponcer for a majority of the bill. She heard from me on that one a few weeks ago, and I got a long personal form statement back saying all the good that it will do. Told her she lost many a disabled vote giving away SS to felons, and that she just doesn’t get it. It failed though, but somebody will get it threw down the line.

    • Anonymous
      June 18, 2006 at 12:14 am

      [COLOR=red]My Senator, L. Graham, lost my vote too[/COLOR]

    • Anonymous
      June 18, 2006 at 5:42 pm

      I’m from Massachusetts. What can I say???We have worked too hard all of our lives to let the politicians give our”sweat equity” away to everyone. I say we vote everyone of them out of office and have on person appointed by lottery from each state to hold office for only 2 years.
      connie

    • Anonymous
      June 19, 2006 at 12:44 pm

      [COLOR=red]I am appalled that an illegal immigrant can get basically any help they need, but I (a US citizen)have to beg, borrow, and bitch, to even get ignored by Medicare/Medicaid! I’ll be writing my senator.[/COLOR]

    • Anonymous
      June 25, 2006 at 7:32 pm

      [COLOR=red]I hope I didn’t offend anyone by my post, but it’s how I feel. This tread got awfully quiet. ๐Ÿ™ [/COLOR]

    • Anonymous
      June 25, 2006 at 7:36 pm

      I am not offended by your thread Dave. You are totally correct when you say that an American has to beg, borrow and bitch and still get ignored. It’s appalling to think that all of us who have worked so hard and put money into the system for ourselves will probably not get any of it back at retirement age because the Government gives it away to the undeserving.

      ๐Ÿ˜ก ๐Ÿ˜ก ๐Ÿ˜ก ๐Ÿ˜ก

    • Anonymous
      June 25, 2006 at 9:24 pm

      Dave,

      Your post is a topic of conversation that comes up regularly in our circle of friends, and its quite a diverse section on people. Every single one of them have the same sentiments as you, and my husband and I feel the same way. We have been in the US just short of 10 years now, and would like to become citizens once we are ‘allowed’ to do so. My son is American, and my daughter can’t remember anything else, so I like to consider her American to.

      I need to explain something before I carry on. We had tons of people from overseas come and live in South Africa because it was such a beautiful place, the weather is fantastic, economy was great (before the mid 90’s) and until recently, most of the people were friendly, warm and generous. Tons of them would critisize and say things like … “Well, back home we did …..” or “We NEVER did that, back home we…” I wanted to shout …. “Well, why dont you just go back to where you come from and leave us alone”. Now, I am so aware that I am not American, and my accent just sticks out like a sore thumb, and I can imagine how some people feel about me cause I am not from here. I FEEL like this is my country now. I love it, I have adopted everything American (except the accent, some of the words are there, but I just cant change it, and the my family say I sound American to them). I believe if you live and make a country your home, you have to abide by their rules, adopt their traditions, live LIKE THEY DO,…..AND, SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE…..Our family is very defensive of America, and believe me, America comes under attack from many European people we know. Go fly your own flag in your own coutry people!! Ok, so the story carries on.

      To come to this country to work, to get the visa’s we needed, my husband had to prove, through the company that was employing him, that he had a college degree (or equivalent), that pertained to the job he was doing. The company had to prove that he wasnt taking another citizens job, and that another person in America couldnt do the job he was comming into. Needless to say it took us a while to get here. The visa’s we got allowed only him to work, and only for the company he was employed by, he couldnt move jobs without TONS of approval and paperwork (still the case). I was not allowed to work, (until just over a year ago, got to a point in the green card process that allows me to) and if I did earn any dollars, coffee, chips, tuition or whatever for payment if I did do something, and they found out, we would be told to leave, and not allowed to return for 10 years up to a lifetime. We started our green card process just after arriving, AND WE STILL DONT HAVE IT. My husband earns a good salary and for almost 10 years we have paid SOC. SECURITY, medicaid and everything we need to, BUT, we cannot claim if we need it cause we are still on visa’s. Once we get our green card (we will be so happy) we will apply immediately for our citizenship, which apparently we will get after 5 years of green card living. We have found out that its kind of ‘the luck of the draw’ in the green card game. 9/11 also had an impact and slowed it down. WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING LEGALLY, we are not a burden to the society. My husband pays all taxes, volunteers with teenagers, and I have worked doing a lot of volunteer work for the United Way and the Medical Free Clinic (full of illegals who cant speak English) in our town. It is HIGHLY unlikely we will have to leave at this point, but we are not “safe” yet. [B]I am INCENSED[/B] at what is going on with illegal immigrants. I SEE how people on this forum are suffering, as you said Dave, to beg, borrow and bitch for something from the government! I see how money (services) seems to be dished out left right and centre to illegal’s, and I just DONT get it. We have had to work so very hard to stay in a country that we dont want to change (to another language, or set of values), but yet certain people are allowed in, given things, even though they are breaking the law, and then given amnesty! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ What a crock! And what about Americans, afterall this is YOUR country.

      If any of you read through my ramble, thanx for sticking with it! ๐Ÿ˜€

    • Anonymous
      June 25, 2006 at 9:54 pm

      Dear Ali:

      I have to agree with everything you said. I can’t understand why people who do everything the correct way, like you and your husband, are getting kicked to the back of the line by people who come here illegally. There has to be some sense of fairness when it comes to our immigration policy.

      The thing that makes me wrap duct tape around my head for fear of explosion is when it comes to bilingual ballots. Who is allowed to vote in America? Citizens over age 18. What is one requirement for citizenship? To fluently speak and read the English language. So why do we need bilingual ballots? So illegal immigrants can vote, illegaly. Why do we kick law abiding immigrants to the back of the line? Because our elected officials fear reprisals by illegal immigrants at the polls. Just stop with the bilingual ballots.

      Lee

    • Anonymous
      July 8, 2006 at 1:57 pm

      Plainfitt’s Exhibit 453

      A man in Hillsboro, Oregon, Allen Heckard, is suing Michael Jordan and Phil Knight, the founder of Nike Shoes for 416 million dollars each. The reason? Mister Heckard apparently strikes an amazing resemblence to Michael Jordan, which causes him distress. Well not just a little bit of distress, but 832 million dollars worth of distress. Damn it must be tough to be Mr. Heckard. My first thought when I heard about this lawsuit was that for 50 dollars, I would be willing to use a baseball bat and a pair of needle nosed pliers to cure the problem and ensure that Mr. Heckard no longer looks like Michael Jordan. I also thought I am getting older, and as I get older, I have more hair growing on my back and out my ears, but you don’t see me going to the zoo and suing the hyenas!

      In this stage of human development, where a lottery mentality is so prevalent, and by lottery mentality I mean the thought that you can get something for nothing, I can’t really blame Mr. Heckard. I do find fault with the moronic attorney who decided that this case had enough merit to go forward and file a lawsuit. I also fault the Oregon Bar Association for, as of today, not yanking this attorney’s law license for this obvious shakedown. If you don’t want to hear all the lawyer jokes, then do something about this joke of a lawyer.

      Lee

    • Anonymous
      July 8, 2006 at 3:48 pm

      Maybe he should become a Michael Jordan impersonator and quit wasting the time and resources of our courts etc

    • Anonymous
      July 8, 2006 at 3:53 pm

      Yes, and I am sure the guy just shaves his head for comfort…………….not so he would look like Michael Jordan, and probably got his ear pierced for the same reason…………….unbelievable.

      He is 6 inches shorter than jordan, so I guess he can sue somebody because he stopped growing before he matched Jordan’s height too.

    • Anonymous
      July 8, 2006 at 5:27 pm

      Hey Lee,

      The first thing I thought of was not the guy, but the lawyer that got a case like this to court. Now, just maybe, if a guy named Vito came up to me and said “I’d like this gambling debt paid in full tommorrow, or else, Mr. Jordan”, then maybe I should get a lawyer and be concerned about being mistaken for Jordan, or, go audition for that look a-like show on cable, make some money and get out of dodge. Who would want to see this case won by this guy? Plastic surgens.

    • Anonymous
      August 17, 2006 at 3:29 pm

      Plaintiff’s Exhibit 452

      I was watching television the other day, mainly because my neighbors didn’t pull their blinds, but anyways their was a commercial advertisement for the new “Fitness Channel”. Has it really come to this? Do people who want to get fit turn on the television? I would think turning it off would be the better path towards fitness. And what exactly does the fitness have in the way of programming? I hope they have an authoratative looking guy with a megaphone shouting, “TURN OFF YOUR TV AND GO OUTSIDE AND GET SOME EXERCISE! YOUR NOT BURNING ANY CALORIES WATCHING ME! GET OFF YOUR FAT A……..”

      Well, you get the point.

    • Anonymous
      August 17, 2006 at 3:52 pm

      [COLOR=red]Lee[/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#ff0000]I have heard that if men watch pretty young ladies run around on beach in bikinis it is similar to a 30 minute workout! I mean their pulse rate increases, breathe harder and faster, and some men may even beginto prespire. Women may have similar effects watching attractive young men cleaning pools.[/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#ff0000]I don’t know if this is true, but …[/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR]
      ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    • Anonymous
      August 17, 2006 at 4:57 pm

      Hi,

      When facing a child sex charge in Thialand, then being detained in their jails, it’s amazing what people will own up to. Sure didn’t take that guy long to confess and scream for extradition, did it? Maybe we could rent out their jails and send our murders over there first to be arraigned, then see how silent they want to be. That guy would have confessed to the Lindburg kidnapping just to get out of there.

    • Anonymous
      August 18, 2006 at 9:44 am

      Regarding the pervert in the Ramsey Case,
      When I read that he had been arrested in Thailand and confessed, I figured that he was more than happy to tell them his whole live story in order to get back to the US. I bet he didn’t have a lawyer present (no Miranda warning there). The Thais have ways to make him talk. We should send more of them overseas for interrogation.
      The Boulder police look pretty bad in that they focused on her and didn’t even look elsewhere. Its hard to believe that a city that large would have a police department that is that incompetent.
      Lea

    • Anonymous
      August 18, 2006 at 2:41 pm

      Dear Marc and Lea:

      I am glad you brought that subject up. I read that child sexual predators having been resorting to plastic surgery in order to avoid predator watch programs and also to assume identities where they can once again work around children. With this in mind, a well-intentioned but misguided member of the House of Representatives proposed funding a program to perform low powered infrared laser scans on the retinas of convicted childhood sexual predators so that there will be an unalterable way to identify these perverts. That sounds like a good idea, right? No, it isn’t and I’ll tell you why. Anytime you have some freak attached to a machine with a laser beam in their eyes, to me it just seems like a waste not to turn the laser up to extreme blinding pain. If there isn’t two smoking charcoled holes where their eyes used to be, then it just seems like a waste of time and effort. Am I wrong for thinking this way? I don’t think so.

      Lee

    • Anonymous
      August 18, 2006 at 3:40 pm

      [COLOR=”Blue”]Amen Lee! I could right a book but won’t. Actually in the future I might. I believe you reap what you sow. Bring that cowardly bastard back here and send him to the worst prison on the planet. Even criminals don’t like predators. Put him in with the general population and we won’t have to pay for his keep very long. I’d tell you what my husband say’s about sexual predators but it’s kind of gross. It’s taken years of therapy but I am a survivor. Probably a coincidence(?), But when I was 8 I wished my grandfather would die. One week later he dropped dead of a heart attack. As a child I felt guilty, but today NO WAY! Many more children were saved from his abuse and for that I am grateful. There is no punishment strong enough.[/COLOR]

    • Anonymous
      August 18, 2006 at 4:18 pm

      Lee, I agree with your sentiments exactly.

      Personally, I have always thought there should be 3 possible verdicts for crimes like murder, rape, child molestation, treason, etc.:

      1. Not guilty- the guy walks. Fair enough.
      2. Guilty- the guy gets to appeal, pretty much as things are today.
      3. Guilty, caught red-handed- No doubt the perp did it. In this case, he gets one final meal, and gets to choose the method of his execution, either lethal injection or firing squad, to be carried out within 2 DAYS. I’m talking cases where the guy has confessed or where he has been caught undeniably 100%on tape or by dozens of witnesses and DNA evidence. Why waste taxpayer dollars with scumbags like that? I can understand giving a guy due process where there is some possible question of hs guilt, but 20 years on death row is absurd. If we know with certainty a convict did the crime, let’s get on with it. Five .30 rounds cost what, $1? Rant over.

      Dick

    • Anonymous
      August 18, 2006 at 4:39 pm

      I would have a very painful punishment for any sexual predators.

      Please don’t be offended by what I am going to write.

      1. Disrobe the fiend

      2.Take a razor blade and make nice deep slices on the fiend’s sex organ

      3.Take acid and pour it all over the deep cuts of the fiend’s sex organ

      4.Then turn him over to the victims and their families

      It’s that simple and I would gladly volunteer to do the nasty job, I have no qualms about doing it, since I have seen the pain both physically and emotionally they have caused to the victims while I worked for the OB/GYN.

    • Anonymous
      August 19, 2006 at 12:37 am

      Hey Dick,

      You mean for those crimes, maybe a little old Arab world justice might be in order? Those guys know how to hold a trial and despence punishment. I’ve heard some of their trails last as long as a week in some cases.:D

    • Anonymous
      August 19, 2006 at 1:37 am

      Pedophiles usually end up as the prison block’s bride while everyone in the prison looks the other way. I prefer castration and death by the slowest, ugliest method.

      Dressing a child as an adult and forcing her to cavort as an adult in beauty contests is inappropriate at best. It sets up the child as the perfect prey for a pedophile. What in the hell were Jonbonet’s parents thinking? They set the poor kid up and, to my mind, were accessories to the murder.

      Regards.
      Marge

    • Anonymous
      August 21, 2006 at 6:43 pm

      [COLOR=red]My question is why all the attention about this case!? What about the other kids that have been hurt since then? The world doesn’t revolve around one very unfortunate rich kid. ๐Ÿ˜ก [/COLOR]

    • Anonymous
      August 22, 2006 at 10:32 am

      Very true Dave, but it’s the news media that made it headlines and still is. I guess it’s because it’s a bizzare case where the parents were considered suspects and that the cops in Boulder, Co. made way to many mistakes and compromised the crime scene.

      I am glad they have this guy in custody and if he is the real killer, at least he won’t hurt anymore children. Also if he is the true killer, my wish would be to torture this deviant.

      It is a shame that more news coverage is not given to other victims.

    • Anonymous
      August 22, 2006 at 11:43 am

      Hi,

      Gee, Dave, they just can’t find a cute blonde one yet. What about the ugly school teachers who had sex with a student. Plenty of those cases floating around too.

    • Anonymous
      December 11, 2006 at 8:11 pm

      People’s Exhibit No. 567

      If you ever have been around a construction site, I am sure you have heard the beeping of construction machines as they back up. Once they started using the beepers, the number of people crushed by backing vehicles went down by 50%. It was a good idea and it was a system that worked.

      Any good idea can be taken up by the government and regulated to the point of stupidity. In Oregon, the state government decided that those little beepers should be on whenever a construction vehicle move at all. On a construction site, with every vehicle beeping every time it moves, the beepers no longer mean anything. There is so much noise on a construction site, that you can’t pay attention to the beepers. The end result was that the numbers of people crushed by construction equipment in Oregon has gone up 50%. It is obviously a bad law.

      During the recent election, a couple of Republican State legislator’s tried to get rid of the law, but they were pilloried by their Democratic rivals for rolling back worker protection laws. Eventually the Republicans caved and gave up trying to get rid of the beeper law. So in Oregon, a construction worker is crushed every few days because of political expediency.

    • Anonymous
      December 11, 2006 at 9:57 pm

      Lee,

      Aaaaggggghhhh!

      Suzanne

    • Anonymous
      December 12, 2006 at 8:15 am

      With my health problems always “in my face”, I love your sarcastic humor, that has me rolling on the floor many times.
      Lee-please keep it up, as it gets my mind off “me”…ROFLMAO !
      Ken

    • Anonymous
      March 14, 2008 at 10:54 am

      People’s Exhibit No. 568

      As many of you know, I work as a land surveyor and map maker. One of my duties is to draw maps of land where property is going to be sub-divided or split up. The purpose of the map is to show that property lines aren’t going to be going through buildings and setback requirements are being met.

      Usually I draw the map on 11X17 paper because the scale fits and the paper size can be reproduced on almost any copy machine.

      The city of Portland has changed their requirements and now they are insisting on maps on 18×24 paper. Several map were submitted before the change in rules and they were rejected. I replotted the same map on 18×24 paper, only this time it had huge margins. This way I was able to meet a ridiculous and arbitrary government rule without redrawing a map and having to bill my customer a ‘government stupidity surcharge’.

      I just learned yesterday that the City of Portland just passed an adminstrative rule limiting the size of margins on maps to 1.5 inches maximum, as a spiteful response to the maps I sent them. This is always the response of government, pass a dumb law, and when they see how people deal with said law, they pass a dumber law.

      By this time, I am getting perturbed. What can I do, redraw the maps again? Thats not going to happen. Could I resize the border of the map so I can resend the same map, only with a ridiculously huge border? Thats a possibility, but no.

      What I did is I phoned the City of Portland Bureau of Sustainability and Environment. I asked if there was some mandate that the city had which required a reduction in waste paper. There is! Super! I would like to file a formal complaint against the City of Portland planning department and their change in map size policy. Did they have an environmental impact statement on their paper size policy? No. Did they run their policy change past the Bureau of sustainability? No.

      So the policy is changed for now, I went back to the City and took my 18×24 maps back and replaced them with 11×17 maps.

      So who is the foolish one here? Probably me. I wasted half a day fighting foolishness with supreme foolishness. It’s just the fact that sometimes tilting at windmills is the right thing to do. Well at least it is entertaining.

    • Anonymous
      May 6, 2008 at 11:23 am

      I am not sure if this means that we should destroy the world or that the world has already been destroyed and we are living in a post-apocalyptic pergatory, but I just heard that Dina Lohan, the mother of celebrity whack-job, Lindsey Lohan, was selected as ‘the mother of the year’ by Mingling Moms.

      It is just mind staggering. What possible criteria could they use? Maybe their selection criteria was heavily weighed towards having a daughter who smokes crack cocaine rocks the size of a Buick. Perhaps their criteria was weighed in favor of mothers of daughters who have been in and out of rehab so much that their daughters give celebrity endorsements to door companies. And maybe, just maybe, every other mother in the planet had already been selected at one time or another and no one was left.

      Anyway, thanks to Mingling Moms, the world as we know it has ended. The barbarians are at the gates. It’s time to duck and cover. Save yourself, I’m heading for high ground.

      Lee

    • Anonymous
      May 12, 2008 at 11:54 am

      Good morning all,

      I can’t remember the details – I say that alot – but I recall something about a soccer game in South America where an official/goalie had made a call/missed a goal – and after that, they were hunted down and killed by the local townspeople. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

      Second, I sat in Court yesterday (working) and watched an elderly man have to be instructed he was not allowed to smoke in the Courthouse. He argued that he would do anything he wanted to do – “cause he was short on time, due to his emphysema and lung cancer” Meanwhile the bailiff escorted him out.

      While ALL of this was happening, he was wearing a nasal cannula carrying a small bottle of oxygen that pumped oxygen in small consistant puffs, with a lighted “smokie treat” hanging out of his mouth, coughing up (and spitting) phlegm all over the Courtroom. ๐Ÿ˜ก

      I remained at my seat, quietly recording every word on my transcriber..thinking – Are you kidding me? :confused:

    • Anonymous
      May 28, 2008 at 6:39 pm

      When I read about this I had to bind my head in duct tape to keep my head from exploding.

      Starting January 1st inhalers for asthma medicine will no longer be able to have propellents made with Chloroflorocarbons or CFCs. Instead, asthma inhalers will use a new propellent CHA.

      The disadvantages of CHA inhalers are that they will have a weaker charge, they take longer to use, the asthma medicine is significantly less likely to get deep into the bronchial passages of the lungs where it does the most good, it needs to be inhaled very slowly to be effective which may be impossible with an individual suffering a severe asthma attack, it is three to four times as expensive than CFC inhalers, there is a much higher risk of infection, the CHA inhalers need to be washed out and air dried at least once a week, the new inhalers have a shorter shelf life, and almost two thirds of the active medicine is wasted. It is expected that the number of people who die in the United States because of the new inhalers will be anywhere from several hundred a year to a few thousand. In short, the new CHA inhalers suck.

      So why the change? Because our government signed a treaty to reduce CFCs in order to protect the ozone layer. The problem is that the US needs to reduce CFCs each year in order to comply with the treaty but we already have banned all CFCs in everything already and the only exception is in medicines. Once we ban CFCs in asthma inhalers, at the potential cost of thousands of Americans, there is nothing left to ban in order to meet the required reductions in 2010, so the US will be in breach of the treaty anyways.

      Furthermore, the amount of CFCs in inhalers is such a miniscule amount that I can’t find anyone who thinks it will make any environmental difference at all.

      So it comes down to the loss of hundreds, if not thousands of American lives each year versus a dubious, at best, environmental gain for a treaty that we are going to breach in 2010 anyways. Why does this make any sense whatsoever?

      Why do we keep trying to placate the environmentalists when they aren’t going to be happy anyway, no matter what?

    • Anonymous
      May 31, 2008 at 12:35 pm

      [FONT=”Comic Sans MS”][SIZE=”2″]Sheesh!
      Pass the duct tape Lee, hope it’s a big roll.
      [/SIZE][/FONT]

    • Anonymous
      June 2, 2008 at 11:35 am

      [B]I really never thought about this Lee. I do have new inhalers and now I know why I have to use them more often then I did before with the older inhalers. Put duct tape on my mouth so I don’t curse the government.[/B]

    • Anonymous
      June 2, 2008 at 1:14 pm

      Keep the duct tape moving this way!!!;) Am I wrong or do you not inhale the cfcs into the body when one uses the inhaler?! It goes into my lungs, not into the air/ozone. I was just put on a new asthma inhaler last week, I can’t tell if I’m inhaling anything or not. I don’t breathe any better after I use it either, but the number does go down.:confused: That really does suck!! And I noticed there are more warnings and serious side effects with this new inhaler vs the old one–imagine that!:mad:

    • Anonymous
      June 2, 2008 at 2:37 pm

      [B]The cost of the new inhalers in my prescription plan have gone up from $1.95 for generic to $7.95 now. Oh I’m beginning to see the pharma companies also have a hand in this, what do you think?

      Let me also add, that back in the beginning of February I had to call 911 because my asthma was very bad and now I can link this to the new inhaler.

      Why can’t this government leave things alone, if it broke, don’t fix it.[/B]

    • Anonymous
      November 4, 2008 at 3:51 pm

      This is just astonishing. Over 300,000 Americans have applied to be Paris Hilton’s BFF (best friend forever) for a new reality television show. That’s right, over a quarter million Americans want to be best friends to the human equivalent of a Porta-Potty.

      Dear Terrorists:

      Perhaps you were right all along.

      Warmest regards,

      Lee

    • Anonymous
      November 6, 2008 at 11:18 am

      [QUOTE=Lee Spurgeon]This is just astonishing. Over 300,000 Americans have applied to be Paris Hilton’s BFF (best friend forever) for a new reality television show. That’s right, over a quarter million Americans want to be best friends to the human equivalent of a Porta-Potty.

      Dear Terrorists:

      Perhaps you were right all along.

      Warmest regards,

      Lee[/QUOTE]

      Lee,

      Just goes to show you how many brainless twits there are.

      I got a good laugh when I read this post.

    • Anonymous
      November 6, 2008 at 10:44 pm

      [FONT=Comic Sans MS]:D Donna I think it’s more like brain dead ![/FONT]

    • November 11, 2008 at 3:35 pm

      News reports this last weekend said a man and his former wife were killed over an argument about the Alabama vs. LSU football game and that alcohol may have been a factor.

    • Anonymous
      November 11, 2008 at 5:35 pm

      I saw that Gary! What really shocked me was seeing religious monk in Isreal getting into a brawl inside a Church! Did you see that one? Ohh my gosh! They were in a fist fight inside the Church fighting right in front of a Cross with Jesus in front of them. That was a shocker!

    • Anonymous
      December 9, 2009 at 10:44 am

      Britney Spears may be pregnant again. Do I need to say any more?

      If it wouldn’t violate the spirit of this website’s rules, I would add that one’s uterus is not a clown car, but being a model web community citizen, I will refrain from making that observation.

      There is no need to thank me for my restraint.

    • December 10, 2009 at 4:13 pm

      Good one Lee. The image of clowns piling out of a car somehow seems relevant considering some of Britney’s outfits .

      How about … Executive Bonuses.

      “Under fire for paying out huge bonuses as much of America reels from the aftermath of the recession, Goldman Sachs said Thursday its top executives won’t receive a cash bonus for 2009.

      The banking titan said its entire 30-person management committee will receive 100% of its discretionary compensation in the form of shares at risk, which cannot be sold for five years.”

      Hmmm…They’re still getting 100% of their bonuses only it’s restricted stock. [B][U]That[/U][/B] hits them where it hurts alright … I can’t imagine having to get by on a $15,000,000/yr salary alone whilst waiting on $50,000,000 in stock to be unrestricted.

    • Anonymous
      January 3, 2010 at 5:27 pm

      The house next door to mine has been vacant for two years now. The folks who lived there moved out and took all of their stuff. I cut the grass for two summers so the neighborhood would not look so bad, and to keep the rats and snakes further from my house.

      While cutting the grass in October of this year there was a FedEx Envelope on the porch. I Looked at it. It was from BankAmerica. The house had been vacant for a year and 10 months. It had rained on the FedEx, and I waited a couple of weeks. My curiosity bested me. I opened it.

      It read… We have noticed that you have been having difficulty with your payments (No kidding). If there is any way we can work out an agreement please contact us…blah..blah…blah..blah…

      Bottom line. The major banks still hold these bad loans on their balance sheet. They took the federal bailout money to increase their cash position, to raise fees, to increase their reserves to defend against the losses. But they did not do anything to correct the losses. They are still carrying them, hoping that things will work out.

      Well, those folks are long gone, never coming back. Just like the jobs gone over-seas. Gone and never coming back. All of these foreclosures have got to be realized and accounted for on the banking balance sheets. we are in big poop coming down the road because they took all of our money and did absolutely nothing except cash in and cash us out.

      Personally I am pissed on.